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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 21:11:07
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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At this point, that would be an acceptable outcome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 21:11:13
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Yep, it surely would, because they've already spent the money.. Despite their feeble claims they haven't.
It's pretty telling their company is out of money because the only time new product comes out of their posterior is when they get an influx from a kickstarter. And this last time around it went to fulfill some Rifts books that are about 10 years behind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 22:57:09
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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I do not see anything negative with this outcome.
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A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 01:52:50
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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If they don't deliver and can't afford refunds, too bad for them. I have no pity for a company that mismanaged our money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 01:57:58
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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you say that like it is a bad thing ?
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Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 02:42:01
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Oh not at all. Just stating the laughably obvious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 05:34:48
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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Pretty sure at this point if someone accidentally left the toilet light on, the increased electricity bill would bankrupt them.
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There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 06:18:17
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Gakking in the dark at PB would explain a lot...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 15:25:55
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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For those interested, FFG's Christmas sale is up.
Their shipping charges seem...usurious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 20:00:30
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Merijeek wrote:For those interested, FFG's Christmas sale is up.
Their shipping charges seem...usurious.
More money to throw at 'Christmas Grab Bags' from someone whose product line I actually am interested in.
FFG must use the same shippers as PB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 21:59:14
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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My final order was about $120...with another $60 in shipping.
Ugh. Still a decent deal, but really made it less enjoyable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 14:37:02
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Been Around the Block
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Merijeek wrote:My final order was about $120...with another $60 in shipping.
Holy carp!
Even if you're outside continental US, that's ridiculous. Even shipping Fortress Maximus to the US from Japan via EMS is cheaper.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 15:05:32
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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I'm not. This'd be a shipment from Minnesota to Oregon.
My favorite part was when I added the Cthulhu Art Book (for $5) and my shipping jumped $8. So...I removed it, obviously.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 01:14:50
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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The great Newsletter is upon us! Let us see what tidings it brings!
"UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™
Far from forgotten. Working on some cool things. More later. A 2017 release."
This quote doesn't really do it justice; due to the large font size/bold the title uses, the *TITLE* is nearly the same size as the 'update'. Like, 80% or so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 01:21:55
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Dakka Veteran
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Forar wrote:The great Newsletter is upon us! Let us see what tidings it brings!
"UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™
Far from forgotten. Working on some cool things. More later. A 2017 release."
This quote doesn't really do it justice; due to the large font size/bold the title uses, the *TITLE* is nearly the same size as the 'update'. Like, 80% or so.
I initially thought Forar was doing a parody/being sarcastic, and just summarizing things. Nope. That's a literal copy/paste. That's all PB think it deserves. They're either intentionally trolling, or they're really out of feth's to give as it relates to how they want to be perceived.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 01:53:11
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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Perhaps, if they don't do it by 2017, then HG won't renew the license.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 02:32:48
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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n815e wrote:Perhaps, if they don't do it by 2017, then HG won't renew the license.
While I don't think Harmony Gold are happy with the current situation, I think you're assuming that Harmony Gold thinks that the current situation is not only harming their product significantly, but that it exceeds the royalties licensing provides AND they'd get a similar amount from another company.
I don't see that happening. But it's possible that PB are hedging on that. Given PB's tendency to overextend on their promises (they're still promising 5 more books during Fall, which is what, a month away), that there is no non-reprint Robotech sourcebook listed in the PBWU, might be a sign they're not wanting to do something if the license is in jeopardy.
One other thing I noticed with regards the PBWU...
"Available right now:
FREE Robotech® RPG Tactics™ paper game pieces, force organization tables, stat cards, rules and special items – with more coming soon!"
I just checked. No Force Orgs are up, so that's a lie. And unless "rules" means the Faction Cards, and "special items" mean the Special Characters (and I consider both stat cards), then those are full of crap too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 02:50:47
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 03:00:24
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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@Nesbit - at least someone around here is doing a happy dance (QR #4).
The good news is, at some point PB will completely run out of money again to pay HG for the license, and then everything will come crashing down for PB.
Right now, as long as HG gets a $1, it's more than the nothing they would get from other companies who would not be interested in a game line that has a millstone tied to its neck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 03:12:48
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Also what saddens me is to see hobbyist building models knowing the game is dead about everywhere with little chance of finding a game..
Think of any other game company they will try to release something for a game to keep it in the public eye.. what has showed up in the game
stores since the original release.. nothing.. A few print and play on rpgnow.. is it..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 03:25:19
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Genoside07 wrote:Also what saddens me is to see hobbyist building models knowing the game is dead about everywhere with little chance of finding a game..
Think of any other game company they will try to release something for a game to keep it in the public eye.. what has showed up in the game
stores since the original release.. nothing.. A few print and play on rpgnow.. is it..
meh I built about 99% of my models then said feth it and listed them on eBay
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Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 03:38:39
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Forar wrote:The great Newsletter is upon us! Let us see what tidings it brings! "UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Far from forgotten. Working on some cool things. More later. A 2017 release." This quote doesn't really do it justice; due to the large font size/bold the title uses, the *TITLE* is nearly the same size as the 'update'. Like, 80% or so. You forgot almost 25% of the Robotech content although admittedly that amounts to less than one line. "Other work is moving along too, most notably art for other projects. Next on my plate is Rifts® CS Arsenal, The Disavowed and Robotech®." Yes, it's on his plate right after two books that were part of the GreatTM PalladiumTM BookTM ReleaseTM PushTM of earlyTM 2016TM. Yup, he'll get to it right after those two books that were already delayed when he announced late last year that iirc they would be coming out along with a few others in the first 6 months of this year. (hint: only one book out of 6 actually got released and that was in the last month of that time period). Automatically Appended Next Post: Nesbet wrote:Well, if I say anything about today PBWU, it will be longer and more consistent that the update itself...
So, lets post some WIPs instead
Happiest Zentraedi ever!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 04:43:23
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
Valdivia, Chile
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LOL! In all this time I never thought about a dancing Zentraedi xD It's supposed to be landing in a not so comfortable position... not dancing! damnit! xD Maybe I should put it back with the shoulders parallel to the ground, to look like flying backwards?? :/ @Genoside07: today one of my friends mocked me because of warhammer fantasy. We are in a hobby/toys/collectos exposition these days and I wanted to showcase some of my warhammer fantasy miniatures in the showcase. He laughed about fantasy being dead dead DEAD. And I thought, yeah, and we both are playing RRT, trying to get new players, regarding RRT being a fcking zombie corpse!! I found really more embarrasing to try to teach and promote RRT than anything WHFB related. At least the WHFB players hate AoS, but there are several indie projects going on. RRT? Yeah, I copypasted him the 2 sentences that Kevin just published regarding RRT. With a middle finger emoji.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 16:00:35
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Nesbet wrote:
@Genoside07: today one of my friends mocked me because of warhammer fantasy. We are in a hobby/toys/collections exposition these days and I wanted to showcase some of my warhammer fantasy miniatures in the showcase. He laughed about fantasy being dead dead DEAD. And I thought, yeah, and we both are playing RRT, trying to get new players, regarding RRT being a fcking zombie corpse!!
I found really more embarrassing to try to teach and promote RRT than anything WHFB related. At least the WHFB players hate AoS, but there are several indie projects going on. RRT? Yeah, I copypasted him the 2 sentences that Kevin just published regarding RRT. With a middle finger emoji.
How did you know about me disliking Age of Sigmar?? I played WHFB for years and feel the same way.. But truth be told you are completely right. It just now shows the signs
of upper management in game companies that don't know their products or their consumers. Palladium had a chance to make a great game with a known company (Ninja Division)
but I feel Kevin wanted to micro manage everything .. this would allow him to take more of the million dollars sitting on the table. He got his money upfront instead of making a game
that everyone would want with increase sales over years; so blaming the customer for it not selling... On top of trying to sale copies at Gen Con before backers got their copies is
just a single data point on a large chart that he doesn't really care about his customers. And no matter where you are in life.. If someone treats you badly, more than likely you treat the badly in return..
I guess Kevin doesn't understand this at all.. Instead he thinks he is a untouchable super famous Author, Artist and publisher.. that is also borderline bankrupt because of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 19:14:27
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Genoside07 wrote:Also what saddens me is to see hobbyist building models knowing the game is dead about everywhere with little chance of finding a game..
Think of any other game company they will try to release something for a game to keep it in the public eye.. what has showed up in the game
stores since the original release.. nothing.. A few print and play on rpgnow.. is it..
Hence why I finally broke from PB completely and started writing my own rules so that I can use my minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 21:51:12
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You and me both mike
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 22:15:58
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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I wrote house rules too after they made it known they lied about skirmish rules... can I join the club too?!?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 23:08:25
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Sure warboss *thumbs up*
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/20 15:54:06
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Huh.....seems I was warned for the youtube clip I shared....ah well.
My RRT stuff will see more use again in a couple of weeks......playing Battletech Alpha Strike lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/20 18:15:44
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Wasn't there a pointless "official request for update" thread on Palladium's forum last week? It seems to have gone missing.
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