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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:11:56
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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So these new Primaris marines are all carrying gene seed from Guilleman. I know that eventually these marines are coming to all the chapters and it bothers me knowing that the chapter sodomized by matt ward  is now going to be a part of my future armies. I despise all things Ultramarine.
I haven't been able to read too much on the backstory but is this some issue I need to be angry about? Will other chapters get primaris upgrades without the taint of ultramarines?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:18:57
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Furious Fire Dragon
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You can make primaris from other chapters geneseed....relax man I'm sorry Ward hurt you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:24:15
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Here's the transfer sheet from Dark Imperium, clearly demonstrating that they're not intended to be exclusively Ultra.
Ignorance is a foe so easily beaten with a little time and effort.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:25:02
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Yes, it has been gone over to death. Jesus, man. It's a faction in a game in a fictional universe. Try to save your hatred for something real.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:25:41
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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He hurt the lore... after long days of work, I have very few things I enjoy. Warhammer 40K is one of the things I enjoy.
That aside, so the process to make primaries marines can be done without using guileman blood?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:39:02
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Vigilant wrote:He hurt the lore... after long days of work, I have very few things I enjoy. Warhammer 40K is one of the things I enjoy.
That aside, so the process to make primaries marines can be done without using guileman blood?
Yes just say that your primaris are made using stock from, say for example, Ferrus Mannus. I'm pretty sure they just need the gene seeds from any chapter to make them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:46:02
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Vigilant wrote:He hurt the lore... after long days of work, I have very few things I enjoy. Warhammer 40K is one of the things I enjoy. That aside, so the process to make primaries marines can be done without using guileman blood? Yes, Primaris can be made from the geneseed's of any loyalist legion. (I.e. Iron Hands, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, etc.) You should do your research before you complain about nothing
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<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:56:16
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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Thanks to those that helped and answered my question.
To those that snubbed me and say "do your research, waaagh". I asked because I wasn't able to buy the new books yet and I'm not up to date on the lore. I'm an old timer and I come here to seek knowledge when I'm unable to find the answer on my own.
Help out or don't. Don't be condescending and rude. If we all knew everything, a forum wouldn't be necessary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 20:58:54
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Brutal Black Orc
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Vigilant wrote:Thanks to those that helped and answered my question.
To those that snubbed me and say "do your research, waaagh". I asked because I wasn't able to buy the new books yet and I'm not up to date on the lore. I'm an old timer and I come here to seek knowledge when I'm unable to find the answer on my own.
Help out or don't. Don't be condescending and rude. If we all knew everything, a forum wouldn't be necessary.
Dude, it's not even in a book, it's vox populi and been yammered to death both here and in a ton of social media. Plus you didn't go in a very "need help tone" to say the least.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:00:11
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Azreal13 wrote:Here's the transfer sheet from Dark Imperium, clearly demonstrating that they're not intended to be exclusively Ultra.
Ignorance is a foe so easily beaten with a little time and effort.
The Blood Angels transfers on that sheet are better than the ones that come with dedicated Blood Angels kits! What the heck GW?!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:01:39
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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What I've heard is that all the initial Primaris Marines are Guilliman's geneseed, since it was made in secret on Mars. However, later on after the Primaris Marines turned up, Chapters could start making them with their own geneseed. What this means is that a Chapter could end up with Primaris Marines both from Guilliman and their own Primarch's geneseed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:03:18
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Vigilant wrote:Thanks to those that helped and answered my question.
To those that snubbed me and say "do your research, waaagh". I asked because I wasn't able to buy the new books yet and I'm not up to date on the lore. I'm an old timer and I come here to seek knowledge when I'm unable to find the answer on my own.
Help out or don't. Don't be condescending and rude. If we all knew everything, a forum wouldn't be necessary.
Pssht, you started wargaming after I did, don't make yourself out to be an old timer when there's guys active on here who've been gaming since before I was born.
I'm surprised, given your obvious interest, you've not had a good look at the pre orders on GW.com and seen the pictures (where I pulled the image from.) I'm pretty sure most people will, even if they're not intending to pre order.
Frankly you're already on a hiding to nothing because there's likely a very high level of fatigue from regulars (and I include msyelf in this) as the interest around 8th has generated an unusually bad signal to noise ratio in threads where people create whole topics to ask easily answered questions, questions that easily fit into existing topics or can be answered with a little time and care, such as looking at the now freely available information on GW's store, reading the articles on the community site or spending some time looking at the meticulously maintained OP in the 8th thread in News and Rumours here.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:04:35
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Vigilant wrote:Thanks to those that helped and answered my question.
To those that snubbed me and say "do your research, waaagh". I asked because I wasn't able to buy the new books yet and I'm not up to date on the lore. I'm an old timer and I come here to seek knowledge when I'm unable to find the answer on my own.
Help out or don't. Don't be condescending and rude. If we all knew everything, a forum wouldn't be necessary.
Not wishing to offend, but why did you immediately jump to anger without actually researching the topic? If your OP had been a little less rage filled, and rather as simply question gathering, then I think more people would have been receptive.
Immediately going to "I despise that  ing  ing  " probably didn't create a good basis for an opening question.
Still, at least you can avoid the "taint" of Ultramarines with whatever you choose to create.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:06:59
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:15:09
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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Those pics look great. Going to be making some Dark Angels again.
I'm 61 by the way. So I am an old timer, boy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:21:03
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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You're also a little chippy, aren't you, considering you've no idea who you're speaking to?
Still doesn't make you special, still makes you a noob compared to me.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:21:04
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hmmm I'm still on the fence but good to know there are options.
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:28:08
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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Azreal13 wrote:You're also a little chippy, aren't you, considering you've no idea who you're speaking to?
Still doesn't make you special, still makes you a noob compared to me.
Can you stop? Did someone piss in your tea? You're nobody of concern to me. Go troll somewhere else where your importance is recognized.
Thanks, bye. Automatically Appended Next Post: Aetare wrote:Hmmm I'm still on the fence but good to know there are options.
You play the Grey Knights. These new models would be so interesting to see with the Grey Knight paint scheme! Oh that would be glorious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:30:40
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Arashen, Segmentum Pacificus
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Whoa this all needs to calm down folks. Like right now. Let's focus on the hobby.
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I saw with eyes then young, and this is my testament.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:31:55
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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Hey, I just responded in kind, you opened with a lazy, aggressively toned, POS question in your OP, then proceeded to have a go at people for not falling over themselves to help you, then specifically seem to have called me "boy" (which isn't in the least bit loaded and has never been used at all in the history of time in an antagonistic way [/s])
If you want people to be nicer, trying being nicer.
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We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:33:33
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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Agreed Aetare. I like the models, just certain lore irks me. I'm so glad I can make these any chapter I want and still remain loyal to the lore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:33:45
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Purifier wrote:Yes, it has been gone over to death. Jesus, man. It's a faction in a game in a fictional universe. Try to save your hatred for something real.
Gotta admit I'd argue the opposite. Keep your hatred on imaginary things so that nothing real has to suffer from it.
I thought Ultramarines where awesome back in 4th ed with the Tyrranic war veterans and Cassius. Matt Ward hit them hard. A toast to Guilliman turning things around and making the boys in blue awesome again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:35:42
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Vigilant wrote:Thanks to those that helped and answered my question.
To those that snubbed me and say "do your research, waaagh". I asked because I wasn't able to buy the new books yet and I'm not up to date on the lore. I'm an old timer and I come here to seek knowledge when I'm unable to find the answer on my own.
Help out or don't. Don't be condescending and rude. If we all knew everything, a forum wouldn't be necessary.
in the future rather then tyitleing youir threat "I hate ultramarines" how about "looking for info on Primaris Marines" and then ask "so, are Primaris Marines made purely from Ultramarines stock, or are other Legions stock being used?"
Ultramarines fans are just a LITTLE tired of having to constantly defend against space wolf fanboys suggesting ULTRAMARINES are mary sues
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:38:35
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Azreal13 wrote:Here's the transfer sheet from Dark Imperium, clearly demonstrating that they're not intended to be exclusively Ultra.
Ignorance is a foe so easily beaten with a little time and effort.
No Imperial Fists ?
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"When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you know why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." -Jiddu Krishnamurti world renowned champion of peace. An Indian man who spoke at the UN Peace summit 1985. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:38:40
Subject: I hate Ultramarines...
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
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I've no love for the wolves. I do think a certain smurf marine chapter is just riddled with Mary Sue lore. Haha.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/03 21:42:24
Subject: Re:I hate Ultramarines...
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Asked, answered and getting WAY too over the top now.
RULE #1 is a real important thing here on Dakka Dakka.
I'd suggest everyone review the rules of the site again before posting anything else.
As for this thread?
It's all done now...
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