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Here's a unit that I overlooked, until I ran the maths for his gun. Clocking in at 470 base, he is T9 with 22 wounds, with a 2+ save - so it'll take a lot of dedicated firepower to remove him (and, if you build your list to accommodate the Cerberus, your opponent will have other distractions). His gun can reliably remove some of the toughest models you're likely to see at 2k points in a single volley. Whether it's land raiders or even knights (which it may not kill, but will severely cripple). He can delete MC's, and even tough elites given it's four shots. He's the ultimate insurance against any tough model given that a single wound will do a minimum of 5 damage, and a max of 10. If you have a chaos lord (or imperial equivalent) he simply won't miss. And, if he does kill a unit, the following turn he'll get 4d6 to wound (meaning that he'd wound leadership 12 on average - which, obviously, doesn't exist). Chances are, he'll be sticking around for the whole game (unless they dedicate so much firepower to destroying him that the rest of your tough stuff can go unmolested), and each turn you'll destroy your opponents toughest unit (just be aware of invulns, and maybe prioritise units without them, if possible). If he's targeting a flyer, just put prescience on him and watch the flyer crumble as you do 19 damage.

Edit: Thank you. Now, lets try again. I agree, that does seem like quite the unit, thats an AM tank right?

Yeah, certainly. Sorry about that.

Edited my original post. No worries, thought I'd pop in and prevent a thread lock or a mod having to talk with ya. Get it gone first thing and the thread can continue

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Edit: Thank you. Now, lets try again. I agree, that does seem like quite the unit, thats an AM tank right?

The Cerberus is an Astartes vehicle, as well as a relic. So to take it you would need to pay for a Superheavy Detachment, and it would cost way over a thousand points just to field it due to the Relic rule.

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Edit: Thank you. Now, lets try again. I agree, that does seem like quite the unit, thats an AM tank right?

Space Marine actually, it's effectively a Spartan that swaps transport capacity for a really big gun.

Looks pretty tasty, but we're now into the region of super heavy tanks like the Baneblade.

 Aenarian wrote:

 Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:
Edit: Thank you. Now, lets try again. I agree, that does seem like quite the unit, thats an AM tank right?

The Cerberus is an Astartes vehicle, as well as a relic. So to take it you would need to pay for a Superheavy Detachment, and it would cost way over a thousand points just to field it due to the Relic rule.

Ah, my mistake. I haven't been in the know with units lately, 8th has pulled me back in, but the last time I actually played before that was when the BA codex dropped

I play the chaos version, so, he doesn't have the stupid relic rule. A note on the baneblade: A cerberus will deny any save from the baneblade, and, given it's leadership 8 it'll get wounded on the majority of shots (and can use CP reroll). This could cause severe damage to the baneblade and effectively cripple it to 5+ or 6+ to hit. I also find that the baneblade is very expensive given the randomness associated with it's main guns and it's bs4+. The cerberus always fires 4 shots, and has very easy access to 2+ rerollable to hit. I would expect the cerberus to do far more damage to heavies than the baneblade when it's taken bare bones 499 pts. Cerberus is also roughly as durable, given it has 1 higher toughness (so lascannons are now on par), and a 2+ armour save.

Without the buff the gun basically wounds anything on a 2, which given the platform is understandable. 4D6 to wound is slightly worse than 2 to wound rerolling 1s.

Daedalus81 wrote:
Without the buff the gun basically wounds anything on a 2, which given the platform is understandable. 4D6 to wound is slightly worse than 2 to wound rerolling 1s.

I'm not sure I follow. It wounds by rolling 3d6 and comparing leadership, and 4d6 if you killed a model last turn.

Edit: I get what you're saying now.

Spamming DuneCrawlers is probably better.

You can only afford 3 dunecrawlers with neutrons for the price of the cerberus, and, at a rough estimation, they'll do less damage to a knight given that their bs is worse (and it's easier to cripple them), they have a random number of shots, and the minimum damage of each shot is 3, whilst the cerberus is 5. Average shots from all of the crawlers is 6, 4 of which hit, and then 2.6 wound. 1.7 get through his invuln, and causes 5.1 damage. With the cerberus, 3.3 hit, 1.9 wound, 1.23 get passed his invuln, and does 9.84 damage. Against something without an invuln and lower leadership (average for vehicles is 7/8), the cerberus will do even more (the knight is quite an extreme case of high leadership and invuln).

Edit: if you support both with a buffing unit and invest a cp for reroll (which benefits the cerberus more given it's higher single shot potential) you'll see the cerberus leaping ahead in damage output compared to three dunecrawlers with cawl or a tech-priest.