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If you're really hard up for plastic sisters, your best bet is just kitbashing SM with some female heads from a bits site. There are still some shops that sell the metal sisters cheaper than GW, but until their overstock on the metal minis run out then there won't be any plastic sisters anytime soon.
Around 0% to have any additional ones. A plastic Sister was added via Celestine. But it's entirely unlikely for GW to produce Sisters models and/or book this year.
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They're in the Index, so they'll likely make a new codex, and they were added to Shadow War: Armageddon. You can find whole Sister armies going for a reasonable rate on eBay. The problem is that they're not very popular, so sales haven't been high enough to deplete the same stock from 1995. Once those sell out, then I bet we'll see plastic sisters.
teknoskan wrote: They're in the Index, so they'll likely make a new codex
New codex doesn't mean new models.,
teknoskan wrote: so sales haven't been high enough to deplete the same stock from 1995. Once those sell out, then I bet we'll see plastic sisters.
Actually, I don't really even believe that. Some models have gone out of stock then suddenly back in stock several times over the years. GW has IMO made new Sisters minis off the same old molds from the 90s. The moulds are still good, they just need to dust them off and pump some metal in to them..
They just don't have anyone influential within the company that can push for Sisters to be made and released.
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Only meant that in response to the book. I don't believe we're getting new models anytime soon either, hence why it's web exclusive and all metal. Wouldn't surprise me if they eventually became made to order.
Actinium wrote: Plastic sisters have been coming this year since i was 8.
It absolutely could happen, but you shouldn't believe it will.
Since I was 14, but this. My expectations for Sororitas are always set to 'none'. That way, when something nice like the new Celestine happens, I'm wonderfully surprised rather than temporarily mollified.
You can find them in mom and pop stores for the same price they sold them for 20 years ago. I found three blister packs of bolter sisters for $6 a pop. The problem is that they are no longer ship to store for metal minis. Thus why they cost more. All metal minis are that way.
Which, again, is another reason why new players don't usually start about them.
Hell, new players often don't even know they exist!
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The problems sisters face come from a lot of different directions.
First off, they don't sell well enough. It's a vicious cycle though, because they receive piss all for support in the first place, which only makes them sell even less than other ranges that actually receive even the slightest form of promotion.
Second, I get the feeling GW doesn't know what to do with them. Sisters represent a style and era where 40k was at its most 40k. When everything was a matter of ridiculous excess, and the humour of the grimdarkness of the 41st millenium was in full effect.
But now GW is pushing for a more black-and-white angle. Catholic Nazis in space is not something that GW likely feels comfortable with in an era where they're pushing Guilliman and his cronies as the infallible saviours of humanity, as opposed to the nearly malicious middle managers who happen to be the best we've got that was the atmosphere of yesteryear. They represent a very iconic sense of identity that GW seems to want to drop in favour of something that is, frankly, a lot more boring.
Fafnir wrote: The problems sisters face come from a lot of different directions.
First off, they don't sell well enough. It's a vicious cycle though, because they receive piss all for support in the first place, which only makes them sell even less than other ranges that actually receive even the slightest form of promotion.
Second, I get the feeling GW doesn't know what to do with them. Sisters represent a style and era where 40k was at its most 40k. When everything was a matter of ridiculous excess, and the humour of the grimdarkness of the 41st millenium was in full effect.
But now GW is pushing for a more black-and-white angle. Catholic Nazis in space is not something that GW likely feels comfortable with in an era where they're pushing Guilliman and his cronies as the infallible saviours of humanity, as opposed to the nearly malicious middle managers who happen to be the best we've got that was the atmosphere of yesteryear. They represent a very iconic sense of identity that GW seems to want to drop in favour of something that is, frankly, a lot more boring.
Based on how the lore is going, I see the Sisters, and the Astra Ministorum as a whole getting squated at some point. It's not that they're a bad idea for an army, but as you said, they just don't fill the modern fluff like they used to.
There are some good alternatives beginning to be made since GW canlt be bothered.
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phydaux wrote: I just read a rumor that there will be plastic sisters sometime this year. Has anyone else heard this? What is the likelihood that it might be true?
Plastic sisters will be a thing when world peace and gender equality have been implemented first. In other words: It will take a while.
teknoskan wrote: They're in the Index, so they'll likely make a new codex, and they were added to Shadow War: Armageddon. You can find whole Sister armies going for a reasonable rate on eBay. The problem is that they're not very popular, so sales haven't been high enough to deplete the same stock from 1995. Once those sell out, then I bet we'll see plastic sisters.
Ok, but at the same time, saying that the existing fanbase for sisters is lower than the existing fanbase for Harlequins and GSC before their mini-releases is a load of garbage. GSC got what, 4 HQs, 4 plastic units, and a vehicle.
Sisters need 3 new plastic vehicles (2 of which re-use the Rhino sprue so hardly count, one of which is a small walker which you could package with a new weapon variant), 3 plastic troops (Repentia+New Variant, Seraphim+New Variant, and a Literally Everything Else box with bolters, flamers, meltas, HBs, MMs, and you're set) and maybe a Canoness clampack with a couple armswaps and a Support box with Hospitallier, Dialogus, Imagifier, etc.
So, a release somewhere between GSC and Admech, which is likely where Sisters fall in terms of overall demand. And this is with generous space to include new variants for stuff in with the existing kits.
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Actually I think likelihood of plastic Sisters is now higher than it has ever been (not that it is still very high.) They made Celestine and the Geminae, so they already have CAD files for their armour. Most of the work is already done.
Crimson wrote: Actually I think likelihood of plastic Sisters is now higher than it has ever been (not that it is still very high.) They made Celestine and the Geminae, so they already have CAD files for their armour. Most of the work is already done.
This.
Most people got the Triumvirate Of The Imperium for Celestine according to a poll GW themselves held and the Blanche Canoness has sold out twice now.
The idea that Sisters don't sell well is silly. When they get support with decently priced models they sell great.
teknoskan wrote: The problem is that they're not very popular, so sales haven't been high enough....
*eye twitch*
Yes...not popular....lets start a guard army. 100 guardsmen. $240.
Sisters? 100 basic bolter girls. $1500+.
Fethed if i know why theyre not popular.
As far as i know, sisters are pretty much made to order these days. Thats what i heard not too long ago at least.
Seriously, GW has never devoted resources to Sisters. What makes an army popular? Devoting resources to it. No one wants to play the army with expensive 20 year old metal models. No one wants to play the army thats had poor and unimaginative army list and codexes for 20 years. No one wants to play the army that still looks and plays like a 2nd edition Space Marine army. No one wants to play the army that JUST got it's first new release in a decade. No one wants to play the army that has a bunch of it's key units out of print.
You know whats awesome about Sisters of Battle? An army of badass warrior nuns in heavy armor. Thats the core conceit of the army, yet that part of the army has barely been looked at, updated or innovated in 20 years. Instead the last major update Sisters saw had a bunch of rando Inquisition dudes shoved into the force for no good reason.
You know what really worked to turn Dark Eldar, Necrons and Grey Knights (3 armies that were way more obscure and less fleshed out than Sisters)? A full reboot with a brand new line of plastic models, new thematic units and a new interesting codex. This approach turned all three of these factions into popular armies.
I mean, people always say "Oh, but Sisters aren't popular, so GW won't make new models". But thats how armies GET popular. It's hard to imagine Sisters wouldn't do very well given the Dark Eldar treatment. Despite what many people say, I really do think that Sisters have a fan base thats been waiting for years (two decades even) for the army to come into its own. It's also an army that, by virtue of being all women, has the ability to attract a completely new audience to 40k. Sisters are also extremely popular with non-gaming 40k fans, and outside of Marines are possibly the most recognizable 40k characters to general gamers. It seems ridiculous that GW has never even tried to capitalize on this. I worked in two different game shops for several years and when people would look at 40K and get interested very, very often they would ask about Sisters and say that this was an army that looked neat to them and that they'd like to try, and they were always disappointed that the models weren't available (we only carried plastic). I'm absolutely certain theres an audience for Sisters and it seems ridiculous that GW has left them to rot for almost 2 decades,
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phydaux wrote: I just read a rumor that there will be plastic sisters sometime this year. Has anyone else heard this? What is the likelihood that it might be true?
Ha. No. We have something like six marine books and an Aeldari update to get through. Then the other Xenos. And God-By-God Daemons.
Then the Ad-mech and Knights.
Then a re-update for C:SM.
Then a new race.
Then the Interex.
Then the Demiurg.
Then a few more things.
And, finally, just one more thing before SoB in plastic... SQUATS!
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jake wrote: Instead the last major update Sisters saw had a bunch of rando Inquisition dudes shoved into the force for no good reason.
I just want to point out that, as someone who likes both Sisters and the Inquisition, and wants to do a combined force, what they did with that was not good for either Sisters or the Inquisition in the slightest.
But Sisters are doing miles better than the Inquisition at the moment, from a rules standpoint. At least they're playable. Sure, the entire faction is basically chained to Celestine for basic functionality, but at least they can serve a purpose. Inquisition is just a tax you pay to get to use weaker, more expensive units.
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teknoskan wrote: You can find them in mom and pop stores for the same price they sold them for 20 years ago. I found three blister packs of bolter sisters for $6 a pop. The problem is that they are no longer ship to store for metal minis. Thus why they cost more. All metal minis are that way.
That sounds like a quest hook: pack up your sword and armour and travel from town to town, righting wrongs and collecting the lost sisters of battle piece by piece.
But we know of course that metals cost as much as they do today because GW pushed this idea that finecast was cheaper and better, and needed to up the retail price of their metals to fit that. Sisters were just the bigest loosers in that deal because they were all metal.
The question of plastic sisters crops up every few months and you can look through the archives to see how quickly they fall apart. The biggest hope we had was the 'Plastic Sisters of Battle?!' bit from their Facebook video, and that prophesy came true with Celestine. (Despite many nay-sayers at the time insisting they didn't say 'of Battle' at all, despite the video still being up and available to check!)
As ever, if it happens I will be extremely happy, but I'm not holding my breath.
jake wrote: Instead the last major update Sisters saw had a bunch of rando Inquisition dudes shoved into the force for no good reason.
I just want to point out that, as someone who likes both Sisters and the Inquisition, and wants to do a combined force, what they did with that was not good for either Sisters or the Inquisition in the slightest.
But Sisters are doing miles better than the Inquisition at the moment, from a rules standpoint. At least they're playable. Sure, the entire faction is basically chained to Celestine for basic functionality, but at least they can serve a purpose. Inquisition is just a tax you pay to get to use weaker, more expensive units.
True. I was pretty excited when Codex Witch Hunters was announced, only to be horribly disapointed when it was released. It was a travesty for Sisters, who had already been waiting years for a codex update, but it was also just super disappointing for people who were hoping for something really interesting with Inquisitors. The whole book is just super unimaginative and by the numbers, and the Sisters half seems like it was focused around trying to get the most mileage out of already old metal models.
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