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Made in gr
Longtime Dakkanaut




Halandri

I think Draigo might be a cautionary tale of the power of the warp.

In the warp metaphor is real. As the paragon Grey Knight, Draigo had immersed himself in the warp; having unmatched knowledge, everything of his essence was to battle and defeat daemons.

Unfortunately, his affinity with the warp grew too extreme, and now it dominates him; he is now forever immersed in the warp battling daemons.

I almost feel like Draigo's story is the start of a back story to a daemon prince of Malice (-the incarnation of the self loathing/self destructive aspect of chaos) or even Malice himself!?
Made in gr
Longtime Dakkanaut




Halandri

Captyn_Bob wrote:
Let's see. The Grand Master had doubt..
Teleported in, Paladins tear apart the Death Shroud.

Geronitan has Morty transfixed.. morty starts laughing.
Geronitan has a rant, says his piece.. morty points at him flaps his wings (leathery) says he is decieved. Morty rocks out a Plague Wind, Geronitan fails to dispel.. Paladins all fall over.. Gerry drops the sword.. KO'd.

So yeah looks like he just couldn't hang in long enough to do the deed.
For some reason this rendition of the story makes me think of Alphabeat:

Geronitan: The word is on my lips...

Paladins: Say the word!
(Morty points and laughs)

Geronitan: The word is on my lips...

Paladins: Say the word!
(Morty starts to cast a spell...)

Geronitan: The word is on my lips...

Paladins: Say the word!
(Morty kills them all)

Draigo: MOR-TAR-I-ON!
(heartscrawls Morty and saves the day)
Made in gr
Longtime Dakkanaut




Halandri

 Jon Garrett wrote:
SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
 Jon Garrett wrote:
Like - yeah, he beat Mortation, but only because his Sue powers kicked in and he magically unleashed the one attack that could defeat him, but apparently had neither knowledge nor training to do so (from what I understand of other posters accounts - I still haven't listened to the story) he just did.

He had been trained for it and had been given the True Name. It's just that instead of him saying the words it was more of a Psychic bomb. One that he wouldn't be able to use again unless he was prepped for it again. It's not necessarily a Mary Sue Moment.


That...doesn't really help, when you think about it. Why was Draigo, and Draigo alone apparently, the only one given this? If other Grey Knights have this, why aren't they regularly deployed against the Daemon Primarchs? We know Angron took down over a hundred Grey Knights, and if they have access to Mortation's True Name of Instant Detonation then surely they have the same for all of them? I mean, Daemon Primarchs are pretty much the worst Chaos has to offer short of the truly huge Daemons and the Gods themselves. You'd assume that if this was an option, then it would be one they'd use first. And we know Grey Knights battled against the Thousand Sons led by Magnus in the Stygian Crusade, which the Imperials lost.

Hell, if it was an option I'd have everyone who can so much as utter it and knows about Chaos and the fall of the Legions know it.

For that matter, why aren't they using it on Mortation more often? We know in the current lore he's out, about and occasionally murdering whole worlds. The Plague Wars are not exactly subtle. And the Grey Knights 7th Brotherhood were present for it, according to Lexicanum.

I mean, I really should go find the story to listen to at this point. It's starting to sound like the whole thing was a one shot super power that only Draigo has ever been seen using even though apparently other Grey Knights should be able to use it too. Either it's too hard for Grey Knights to master it and Draigo is just that super awesome that he can, or it's being severely under utilized.
Why don't all Grey Knights have this? Perhaps it wasn't really Draigo's doing, rather another powerful being (such as The Emperor or Fateweaver) spoke through him?

Perhaps speaking a True Name is a doorway; once opened it can be traversed in either direction, so against the most powerful daemon using a True Name could be dangerous for the weaker willed?

Perhaps Draigo learnt the True Name out in the field, and didn't realise the knowledge he had until he exercised it?

I dunno, I think there is some room for interesting exploration here.

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