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Since the last Ork Codex, I haven't been able to do a proper DeffWing without going unbound.

Note that I know this is in no way competitive, I just need to know effective it will be, where I need to keep an eye out and minor tweaks that could be made.

Vanguard Detachment.

HQ:

War Boss in MA - 136pts

War Boss in MA - 136pts

Elites:

6 Meganobs - 324pts

6 Meganobs - 324pts

10 Tankbustas - 170

10 Tankbustas - 170

Transports:

2 Battlewagons with 4 Big Shootas - 370

2 Battlewagons with 4 Big Shootas and 'Ard Case - 370

1992 pts total.

Meganobs in the 'Ard Case wagons, TBs in the others. Very simple tactics: Rush forward with a T7/8 W64 wall of iron and beat the snot out of whatever I find.

Very bare bones though. Could drop a meganob from each mob to put rokkits on the TB wagons.
I could also be very cheeky and split the TBs into sqauds of 5 for a double detachment, though I'm unsure of having such small units, even in the wagons.

How are you coming up with Wagoms being that cheap ?

2 wagon with 4 big shoota each ,= 185 x 2 = 370




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Math works out in list, just a typo when posting I think


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List looks fun. I would bring a KFF mek to protect the manz when wagons blow up. Repairing wagons not a bad idea either. Could have one follow behind on a bike perhaps

There's lots of little things I could drop to add KFFs, banners, painboys etc., but I'd end up very small mobs.

Another idea would be to drop one of the TBs and their wagon to beef up the other three and give them support units, but then that lessens the impact of having to face off against 4 wagons.

I could also go 'pure' DeffWing and drop the TBs completely and run 18 meganobs in four units, but be completely devoid of ranged power.

Well, I'm thinking you can get KFF big mek on bike for 101

Dropping 1 TB from each unit is 34 free'd up

Plus 8 leftover you have is 42.

Drop a single mega nob is +54

So 96 points free just need to find 5 more. Drop a big shoota boom 102 free.

I think the 5+ makes up for the loss of 2 TB and one manz easily.


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I also don't think it breaks your theme really. Does make the list resilient against shooting for sure. Lost 2 wagons in a tau first turn shooting vs tau commander + gun drone spam in my last game so I'm weary to not give the wagons KFF. Never going to get a save on them when they get targeted by heavy weapons, so 5+ is way better than the 4+ they'll never get to ell anywyaa (except vs small arms)

Ive used manz 6 times now, they dont work with the new AP system every other army cuts through them like but rarely do you get a 2+ save drop them, take nobz instead how ever knobs are expensive.
I tried a squad of 30 storm boys today they are 2 more points than a boy, i got a first turn asault with them killes 2 x10 guardians and 2 heavy weapon bright lance platforms and consolidated into a bunch of wraiths where they met there demise.
Made there points easily.