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Victoria

What the heck can I take to make a good eldar list with the following:

3x wraithlords
10x wraithguard
fire prism
night spinner
wave serpent
6x fire dragons
12x striking scorpions
fuegan
karandras
yriel
farseer

thats all i got for now!

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While wraithlords might not be the most "competitive" choice, when compared to some of the stuff the filthy imperials can put on the table, they're not bad units. In fact, they're probably better now than they have ever been. 8th seems to be the time for walkers to shine, at least compared to how they were before.

3 lords and a squad of wraithguard would make for a nasty amount of high toughness units for the enemy to deal with.

I'd still say a second wave serpent is a good idea. It's hardly spam, and they're your only transport option. You'd then be able to fill them both with wraithguard and have them push towards the enemy.

Alternatively, if you want to footslog the guard with the lords, then you could put the fire dragons in the serpent...but with only one serpent on the table the enemy will focus on it first turn, as the lords/guard wont reach the enemy until at least turn 2 or 3.

You also have no troops, and you really do need them to stop your enemy from deepstriking plasma scions or something behind your wraithlords and destroying them. A couple of minimum-sized guardian squads at least.

I'd say your best option for the next purchases you make would be:

A squad of guardians
A second wave serpent
   
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Victoria

Only catch is im iyanden and i wanted a fluffy list thats free of guadians if possible. makes it tough to use the army for sure...

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My fix chooses are wraith guard on wave, a crimson hunter as antitank and a squad of shining spears... Than lately I dropped the lord to go for a battalion, playing at least one big unit of 20 guardians, we suffer too much alpha strike and they are perfect to build up a nice non deep strike bubble on turn one and with two heavy weapons and the stratagem that let you pass automatically the morale are a nice choice.... Even a single walker with shuriken cannons who can charge the first turn is pretty nice




 
   
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Victoria

Really so basically I gotta run an unfluffy list?

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McCraggen wrote:
What the heck can I take to make a good eldar list with the following:

3x wraithlords
10x wraithguard
fire prism
night spinner
wave serpent
6x fire dragons
12x striking scorpions
fuegan
karandras
yriel
farseer

thats all i got for now!


I guess this all depends on how competitive your meta is.

In my eyes, you take the WG on foot with Scythes (because you can advance and still fire them, they're just as strong on overwatch as normal shooting so either your opponent takes bad charges or gets shredded and you still get to fall back and shoot) alongside the WL equipped with shuricannons and a glaive (the only non-heavy weapons) then you run the Farseer as a Spiritseer to give them the bonus to hit and Conceal/Reveal from runes of battle.

Then you take the Fire Dragons and Yriel if you want him in the Wave Serpent, give it bright lances and the move-and-shoot upgrade, take the Night Spinner, the Fire Prism, and the Striking Scorps with Karandras for some assault pressure, and you've got a solid elite eldar list. You should be able to get a heavy detachment and an elite detachment for 5CPs.

In the meta where I play, this would have pretty much no trouble. In a meta that regularly runs tourney-level lists, yeah, you'd get slapped around most likely. but wraiths running and gunning with scythes put pressure on faster than an opponent might think, and you're presenting a very solid front that's highly resistant to any anti-infantry fire. The only thing I'd say about the list is you've got relatively few street sweepers available, so I would consider running the Fire Prism as a second Night Spinner since your anti tank is so solidly stacked already. You might consider a squad of swooping hawks to help out with anti-horde duty.

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Victoria

Yeah cheers guys, my local meta is non competitive really, just fun games so fluffy lists pop up a bit.

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McCraggen wrote:
What the heck can I take to make a good eldar list with the following:

3x wraithlords
10x wraithguard
fire prism
night spinner
wave serpent
6x fire dragons
12x striking scorpions
fuegan
karandras
yriel
farseer

thats all i got for now!


I like what you have, similar to mine. Are any of the wraithguard with Axe and shield? Guard on foot supported by 3 wraithlords, Yriel and Farseer is a great start. Fortune is great on Guard.

Dragons in serpent and scorpions to infiltrate.

Wouldn't bother with either Phoenix lord. Add the 2 vehicles, run as Spearhead. What loadouts are your guard, wraithlords and serpent?
   
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Victoria

My guard all have wraith canon but I could proxy D sythe, my serpent has twin scatter lasers, my wraithlord have their shoulders magnatized and have swords and flamers.

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McCraggen wrote:
My guard all have wraith canon but I could proxy D sythe, my serpent has twin scatter lasers, my wraithlord have their shoulders magnatized and have swords and flamers.


maybe....

Vanguard detachment

Farseer, WB 113

5 D-scythe WG 225
5 D-scythe WG 225
6 Fire dragons, exarch (firepike) 109
wave serpent, TL scatter, shuricannon, CTM 154

Spearhead detachment

Yriel 104
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 shurican cannons 155
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 bright lances 171
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 EML 181
Night Spinner 155
Fire Prism, shuricannon 170

that puts you at 1762pts currently.
   
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 bullyboy wrote:
McCraggen wrote:
My guard all have wraith canon but I could proxy D sythe, my serpent has twin scatter lasers, my wraithlord have their shoulders magnatized and have swords and flamers.


maybe....

Vanguard detachment

Farseer, WB 113

5 D-scythe WG 225
5 D-scythe WG 225
6 Fire dragons, exarch (firepike) 109
wave serpent, TL scatter, shuricannon, CTM 154

Spearhead detachment

Yriel 104
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 shurican cannons 155
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 bright lances 171
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 EML 181
Night Spinner 155
Fire Prism, shuricannon 170

that puts you at 1762pts currently.


Is the plan for this to footslog the wraithguard with the wraitlords?
   
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Victoria

Thats a pretty good list! never thought of it like that!

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Niiru wrote:
 bullyboy wrote:
McCraggen wrote:
My guard all have wraith canon but I could proxy D sythe, my serpent has twin scatter lasers, my wraithlord have their shoulders magnatized and have swords and flamers.


maybe....

Vanguard detachment

Farseer, WB 113

5 D-scythe WG 225
5 D-scythe WG 225
6 Fire dragons, exarch (firepike) 109
wave serpent, TL scatter, shuricannon, CTM 154

Spearhead detachment

Yriel 104
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 shurican cannons 155
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 bright lances 171
wraithlord, sword, 2 flamers, 2 EML 181
Night Spinner 155
Fire Prism, shuricannon 170

that puts you at 1762pts currently.


Is the plan for this to footslog the wraithguard with the wraitlords?


f he doesn't want more serpents, it's really the only viable way. They are pretty durable, especially with Fortune on them, but I would prefer the axe/shield on one unit for better protection.
I did forget to add the Scorpions though.

I use 3x WG units but 2 are in serpents (axe shield on foot)

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