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2017/09/26 13:06:58
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!
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2017/09/26 13:30:53
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Full mummified dinosaur!
OK. That is cool. Take my Internet cookies now.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2017/09/26 13:38:25
Subject: Re:Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Experienced Maneater
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This is pretty cool.
Here's a link with better pictures, the shaky video doesn't do it justice imo.
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/06/dinosaur-nodosaur-fossil-discovery/
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2017/09/26 15:58:17
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As an amateur Palaeontologist...Neat!
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2017/09/26 19:25:38
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I thought this was either a hoax or some kind of performance art. Is this actually real? I'm quite serious. If it is it's revolutionary, since I remember back when I was a kid most of what we knew about dinosaurs were guesses at best, and their appearances were of much debate (try guessing what an elephant looks like from it's skull alone) since we were more or less stretching skin over the bones and making educated guesses. If this thing is as well preserved, it is pretty much a lense into prehistory, which is nothing short of amazing (winning the lottery indeed).
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2017/09/26 19:29:58
Subject: Re:Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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...any extractable DNA there???
<cues Jurassic Park theme song>
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2017/09/26 19:44:07
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Wait Weather.com? what does that have to do with dinos?
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2017/09/26 20:13:02
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Try the Nat Geo link provide.
Chemical tests of the dinosaur’s skin have hinted at the presence of reddish pigments, contrasting with the horns’ markedly light coloration.
That's very cool. We have never really known what color a dinosaur would/could be.
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2017/09/26 20:45:15
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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That's amazing what e could learn from this.
This very very cool find.
The real colour. Skin, flesh of a dinosaur.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2017/09/27 04:25:36
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Huge Hierodule
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote:I thought this was either a hoax or some kind of performance art. Is this actually real? I'm quite serious. If it is it's revolutionary, since I remember back when I was a kid most of what we knew about dinosaurs were guesses at best, and their appearances were of much debate (try guessing what an elephant looks like from it's skull alone) since we were more or less stretching skin over the bones and making educated guesses. If this thing is as well preserved, it is pretty much a lense into prehistory, which is nothing short of amazing (winning the lottery indeed).
Can confirm that this thing is real (Personal observation).
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Q: What do you call a Dinosaur Handpuppet?
A: A Maniraptor |
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2017/09/28 11:13:45
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Looks like a Texas sized anteater. awesome!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2017/09/28 11:50:14
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Take that creationists!
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10k CSM
1.5k Thousand Sons
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3k Tau
3k Daemons(Tzeentch and Nurgle)
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2017/09/28 12:29:09
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So would the shape of the soft tissue be preserved?
Most depictions on dinosaurs seem to focus on the skeletal/muscle structure as these are the things we can easily recreate, making modern representations very lean and strong.
I wanna see a fatasaurus!
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2017/09/28 12:30:08
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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It seems like that was the case, although the soft tissue isn't exactly the same as the living thing as it has become dessicated (but not completely decomposed).
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2017/09/28 12:32:15
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Don't worry, they'll just turn their wilful ignorance up to 11 and somehow claim this supports the bibble.
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2017/09/28 12:36:54
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Experienced Maneater
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Don't worry, they'll just turn their wilful ignorance up to 11 and somehow claim this supports the bibble.
110 million years old? Please. Even mummified it wouldn't stay this preserved for more than (idk, whatever number creationists think the earth is old) years!
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2017/09/28 13:26:13
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can we please knock it off with the religious side tracking and keep to the interesting parts? Thanks. The most important part of this will be the actual organs themselves. How well preserved they are and hopefully give us some definitive data about warm vs cold blooded.
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2017/09/28 13:33:37
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Something about fake fossils being put there by a Creator with nothing better to do than upset archaeologists and give them silly ideas.
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Brb learning to play.
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2017/09/28 14:33:15
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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How many s the tissue preserved? I thought the bones were preserved as they were actually stone which replaced the bone.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2017/09/29 12:02:48
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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One can believe in the divine plan without literalist seventh day adventism. I worked that out while I was a child.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2017/09/29 13:06:55
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Orlanth wrote:One can believe in the divine plan without literalist seventh day adventism. I worked that out while I was a child.
Yesterday the Wife, dogs and I celebrated our utter mammalian dominance over the dinosaurs by FEASTING ON THEIR DEAD CARCASSES! Mmm turkey dinosaur...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2017/09/29 14:06:12
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Mozzyfuzzy wrote:Something about fake fossils being put there by a Creator with nothing better to do than upset archaeologists and give them silly ideas.
Paleontologists. Archaeologists are people who study the Human past, paleontologists are the people who study fossils (and the general pre-holocene past). They are separate disciplines (although they come together in the study of Human evolution). Also, most christians believe in evolution, including all christian archaeologists and paleontologists I know. However, they'd probably still be upset or get silly ideas if they found a fake fossil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
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2017/09/29 14:18:20
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Dakka Veteran
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Don't worry, they'll just turn their wilful ignorance up to 11 and somehow claim this supports the bibble.
Ha ha! Pot, meet Kettle. Willful ignorance isn't what it used to be. Since there still isn't a single viable methodology for the origination of life without a creator, let's assume there is one because golly... here we are!
In other words, the result proves the premise. Except that it doesn't.
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2017/09/29 14:27:37
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Excellent, we haven't had a good bash religion in so long.. .
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2017/09/29 15:02:38
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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amanita wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Don't worry, they'll just turn their wilful ignorance up to 11 and somehow claim this supports the bibble.
Ha ha! Pot, meet Kettle. Willful ignorance isn't what it used to be. Since there still isn't a single viable methodology for the origination of life without a creator, let's assume there is one because golly... here we are!
Theres not a single viable methodology for the origination of life without a creator? Nonsense. I believe in Fortuna. She did it.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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2017/09/29 15:07:57
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Back on topic:
On the issue of the preserved tissue; according to the article there is technically no tissue left; apparently the tissue themselves fossilized, which means that they got replaced by rock particles over time just like bones. It's why they're having a hard time doing an internal scan of the things. However some pigmentation survived despite this.
Basically, aside from knowing the general shape and connections the soft tissue had, there's not much else there is. Certainly there is no way to extract DNA from this, as it seems anything remotely organic has since been replaced with stone. Still though, merely learning the internal structure and biology of the dinos would still be a huge leap forward.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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2017/09/29 15:46:50
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Dakka Veteran
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That's a shame no DNA can be extracted from this find though it's hardly surprising. I'm still disappointed nothing has come of the attempt to regenerate a woolly mammoth from a few years back. Any news about that?
Although the Jurassic Park idea is great fun, the atmospheric pressure and composition was quite different than the one we have today, not to mention the food it would eat. If we were able to clone a specimen the poor thing would have to spend its life in some kind of pressure chamber or iron lung.
It would still be awfully cool though!
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2017/09/29 16:08:00
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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2017/09/29 17:27:36
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Well, most of us intelligent (reasonable) Christians recognize that God determined what "a day" was...and a single day could have been what us humans consider 100 million years. The ones who limit God's determination of a day are actually being poor practitioners of their own religion. This understanding enables God and dinosaurs to exist.
This is only hampered if you believe the world was really created in 144hrs according to a current, traditional clock. I'm willing to bet "God's time" is different from your time or mine.
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Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
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2017/10/02 01:44:00
Subject: Dinosaur "Mummy"...This is Amazing!
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Making Stuff
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There's a good idea.
Take the Creation discussion elsewhere, folks.
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