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I really need some help. I am going up against a mate of mine next week. He has a unbeaten list and is really smug about it.

His list contains Magnus, Morterion, Chaos Knight, 2 DG demon princes with wings and claw, and 13 bases nurglings..

I am playing DG against him, and i am really at a loss about what to field against him, or if it is even possible to give him a run for his money with a mono DG army.

Was thinking about 2 big blobs of poxwalkers to screen the rest of the army.. Having drones, dreads and dg with plasma to pot shot at them, with mort and 1-2 princes for an extra punch...

I would love any ideas or lists to help combat his list.

give us an idea of your current list/available models to start off i'd say.

Step 1: Go to your local toy store
Step 2. Buy cool toys
Step 3: Proxy Magnus, Mortarion, a Chaos Knight and 2 Daemon Princes. Fill out with Poxwalkers
Step 4: Watch his face

Fielding lists like that in a friendly game isn't the 40k I play...

Stack up on mortal wounds to match up with his and shoot from a far. Or pull out the horde that he can't manage to kill you and own the board. Scatter your units across the field so he has hard time catching you. Play for the objectives. These are all basic principles, but can easily be forgotten when you see the enemy models..

With DG I'd try to take out one of those biggies with a blob of blight bombardment and biologus putrifier shenagian. Secondly Knight can be gunned down with focussed fire from lascannons, lord for rerolls and couple mortal wounds from your psykers. You'll lose models, but maybe an distraction unit of termies with good amount of dakka might help you in your cause.

Anyways, not a fun list to play against. (or even paint!)

I have a massive army so models are no problem.. it´s more building one..

was thinking about this one.. Using the poxwalkers as a screen and then counter charge with my mort, princes and lawnmower

Hide the crawler and hope for som good hits on the knight to take it down

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [79 PL, 1515pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, pts]: Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Wings

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, pts]: Malefic talon, Wings

+ Troops +

Plague Marines [7 PL, pts]
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 2x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [7 PL, pts]
. Plague Champion: Boltgun, Plague knife
. 2x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher
. Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon: Blight launcher

Poxwalkers [6 PL, pts]: 20x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL,pts]: 20x Poxwalker

+ Elites +

Deathshroud Terminators [11 PL, pts]
. Deathshroud Champion: Manreaper, Plaguespurt gauntlets
. 2x Deathshroud Terminator: 2x Manreaper, 2x Plaguespurt gauntlets

+ Fast Attack +

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, pts]: Fleshmower, Plague probe

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

+ Heavy Support +

Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, pts]: 2x Plaguespitter, Heavy Slugger

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Chaos - Death Guard) [24 PL, pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Mortarion [24 PL, pts]

++ Total: [103 PL, 1985pts] ++

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Since your mate is cheesing it up, might as well introduce some cheese of your own...

If you can get one or both of those Daemon Princes from the CSM codex, you have access to the Dark Hereticus table. Give them both Death Hex, and use CP to re-roll those spells.

So rather than merely hoping your shots will get through those invul. saves, make it so that no one has an invul. save.

If your friend is savvy enough, he'll target those two princes, so you'll have to keep them protected. After that, load up on multi-wound, high rend weapons to take them down.

Also, instead of Deathshrouds, I'd say to use Blightlords and give them combi-meltas. Once an invul. save disappears, deepstrike them next to the target and fry it.

Not a reliable strat but it would be funny to see some warpsmiths turning the chaos knight against his stuff.

I have decided to go a diffent way. I am fielding 3 baneblade patterns, papa smurf and guards as charge screens.

and giving a guard hq the anti chaos relic

skchsan wrote:
Not a reliable strat but it would be funny to see some warpsmiths turning the chaos knight against his stuff.

And how is this possible. I don’t believe warpsmith have any such powers.

A few things I would recommend:

1) Lose the poxwalkers or take Typhus otherwise they are really useless and you are better off taking more plague marines.

2) What are the deathshroud terminators going to do for you? I don’t think you understand just how slow these guys are. I would recommend removing them or changing them over to blightlords.

3) The fleshmower LOOKS AWESOME!. But in gaming reality it absouletly terrible when compared to the bloat drone with the 2x Plaguespitters.

4) Get a second Plaguecrawler. I have used mine and it honestly makes a pretty nice objective holder and can suddenly do bursts of damage that surprise people. Stupid tough and people don't want to shoot at it. Don’t expect more than what a 156 pt model should do for you.

I wouldn't play against that list either. How is it fun playing against 3 super heavies?

Idk. But I mean I field a 3 knight list and I get beaten plenty of times.


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It's fun but don't field it against the new kid with 500 points. A cerastus knight castigator is not something a 500 point space marine list can handle.

Okay so i tried to make list that was more fun to play


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [43 PL, 628pts] ++

Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Company Commander [3 PL,pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol, RELIC OF LOST CADIA

Company Commander [3 PL,pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

Primaris Psyker [2 PL, pts]: 5) Mental Fortitude, 6) Psychic Maelstrom, Force Stave

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, pts]: 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Wyrdvane Psykers [2 PL, pts]: 5) Mental Fortitude, 5x Wyrdvane Psyker

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks [7 PL,pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Basilisks [7 PL, pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [10 PL, pts]
. Leman Russ Battle Tank: Battle Cannon, Heavy Bolter

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [46 PL, 922pts] ++

**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines

+ HQ +

Chief Librarian Tigurius [7 PL, pts]: 1) Veil of Time, 5) Psychic Fortress, 6) Null Zone

Sergeant Chronus [11 PL, pts]
. Predator: Predator autocannon, Two Lascannons

+ Elites +

Cataphractii Terminator Squad [12 PL,pts]
. Cataphractii Sergeant: Chainfist, Combi-bolter
. Cataphractii Terminator: Lightning Claw (Pair)
. Cataphractii Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Cataphractii Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist
. Cataphractii Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist

+ Heavy Support +

Devastator Squad [8 PL, pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher

Devastator Squad [8 PL, pts]
. Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon and grav-amp
. Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon and grav-amp

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Imperium - Officio Assassinorum) [5 PL, pts] ++

+ Elites +

Culexus Assassin [5 PL, pts]

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Space Marines) [18 PL, pts] ++

**Chapter Selection**: Ultramarines

+ Lord of War +

Roboute Guilliman [18 PL, pts]

++ Total: [112 PL, 1995pts] ++

The assassin is going to help against magnus with his -2 to enemy psykers, so magnus is going to be a normal psyker where i get +1 with tigtus. I am going to use the guards as screens and pray to the emperor that i will get Null zone off on one off the big dudes and then pop the guard relic so the armor gets reroll to hit and wound on.. and the predator and devastators are goint to castle around papa with the terminators as screen and burn him down.