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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 13:08:29
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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To all the Speec Mehren players out there:
Is the mixing of Chapters on the tabletop something you do much of in 8th Edition? Did you do it previously in 7th Edition?
I know I used to mix Chapters a lot since having something like a Skyhammer Annihilation Force w/ Black Templar Chapter Tactics combined with a CAD that had Librarians, other units to fill in the blanks, and different Chapter Tactics seemed to work really well in 7th Edition for me. But now in 8th, there doesn't seem to be anywhere near as much benefit of mixing Chapters compared with 7th Edition, so I'm wandering what other people's thoughts on and experiences with this are?
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 13:34:33
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Chaos, technically yes? But I don't mix rules, just colorschemes.
Loyalists? Nope. One army, one rule.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 13:40:06
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I avoid "chapter-mixing." Certain combos were powerful and goofy in 7th (such as the Barkbarkstar) and I am not playing 8th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 14:22:00
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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My Chaos force is a mixed warband of rattags and psychopats, Death Guards, Iron Warriors, Black Legion Rubric and Berzerker mercenaries, etc...
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 15:27:15
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You certainly could mix chapters on the table top, but I'd be surprised.
I think in the Marine fluff, chapters are rarely deployed alongside other chapters as a routine. I think it's the truly epic, apocalyptic, superbattles where space marines might run into marines from another chapter (like Armageddon or the Badab War).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 15:28:10
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wish I could change my answer. I said "no, but I have previously", but then I remembered that it was just a plan to play a certain army list that I had to change at the last second. So my real answer is "No, never".
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Galef wrote:If you refuse to use rock, you will never beat scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 15:29:07
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Fixture of Dakka
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Typically, only in 2v2s. Where each player on the IoM side has 1 chapter.
It's fair game in tournies. Feels wrong outside that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 15:31:18
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I try not to as much as possible, but back in the day I did. 3rd edition, that shiny new baal predator came out with the rules in white dwarf, even through I was a Salamander player I had to have one so "poof, we stole a blood angels tank when no one was looking.". Same thing happened when the new land raider crusader came out in 3rd, it was " liberated" from those undeserving black templars, us salamanders had a more pressing need for it.
As this isn't an issue anymore (except the baal) I don't do it anymore. Plus I haven't used that baal as a predator in years, after it fell off a shelf and broke I rebuilt it as a razorback.
But yeah, sometimes it happens for good reasons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 15:40:18
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Unit1126PLL wrote:You certainly could mix chapters on the table top, but I'd be surprised.
I think in the Marine fluff, chapters are rarely deployed alongside other chapters as a routine. I think it's the truly epic, apocalyptic, superbattles where space marines might run into marines from another chapter (like Armageddon or the Badab War).
It's the opposite. It's much more likely that a few squads of Marines from different Chapters will all be in one place, than a large part of a single Chapter.
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“Do not ask me to approach the battle meekly, to creep through the shadows, or to quietly slip on my foes in the dark. I am Rogal Dorn, Imperial Fist, Space Marine, Emperor’s Champion. Let my enemies cower at my advance and tremble at the sight of me.”
-Rogal Dorn
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 15:43:51
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Corrode wrote: Unit1126PLL wrote:You certainly could mix chapters on the table top, but I'd be surprised.
I think in the Marine fluff, chapters are rarely deployed alongside other chapters as a routine. I think it's the truly epic, apocalyptic, superbattles where space marines might run into marines from another chapter (like Armageddon or the Badab War).
It's the opposite. It's much more likely that a few squads of Marines from different Chapters will all be in one place, than a large part of a single Chapter.
Is it?
All the battles I ever read about in Codex: SM are "such and such chapter scoured such and such planet" or "such and such battle company did such and such with some stuff" or whatever.
I think I can count on one hand the number of times Marines fought alongside eachother from different Chapters:
1) Pre-organized crusades
2) The World Engine
3) The Badab War
4) Armageddon
5) ... I can't think of anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 16:05:40
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Lord of the Fleet
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It does seem that even when elements of more than one chapter are deployed to a conflict they operate largely independently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/20 17:16:31
Subject: Chapter Mixing
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Literally depends what I feel like doing with the list. Right now I'm trying to perfect a joint Astral Claws and Raptors force (HERESY) but also have a pure Minotaurs and pure Carcharodons lists I use, as well as a pure Raven Guard.
Really depends.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/21 03:18:59
Subject: Re:Chapter Mixing
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Hmmmm.... to be honest I kinda expected more in the category of "Yes" haha. But I've always tried to compensate for the lack of range and psykers in my Black Templars army by allying them with other Chapters, but that seems to be unnecessary in 8th Edition (not to mention not commonly practiced by other players).
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