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I'm looking for some advice on how to buff up the poxwalkers in this list. It is meant for a primarily friendly game, but still aiming for competitive to some degree:

Assuming Typhus (Blades of Put.) stays near the walkers along with Necrosius, they should be Str 5, T5, Wounding Eldar on a 2+ and getting mortal wounds on a 6+?

They are hitting on 4+ rerolling 1's to hit from the Prince... With Presience I can make that hitting on 3+

Any thoughts on how to buff the poxwalkers a little more? Anyway to get another +1 to wound?

They are obviously meant to tarpit the hell out of things while Magnus, the Prince and Typhus lay down death and smite storms.


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [39 PL, 741pts] ++

+ HQ +

Malignant Plaguecaster [6 PL, 110pts]: Curse of the Leper, Plague Wind
Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Miasma of Pestilence

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 114pts]: 19x Poxwalker
Poxwalkers [6 PL, 114pts]: 19x Poxwalker
Poxwalkers [6 PL, 114pts]: 19x Poxwalker
Poxwalkers [6 PL, 114pts]: 19x Poxwalker

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [31 PL, 595pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Malefic talon, The Suppurating Plate, Wings

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [6 PL, 99pts]: Chaos Spawn, Chaos Spawn, Chaos Spawn
Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe
Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [21 PL, 415pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Chaos Covenant: Covenant of Nurgle

+ Lord of War +

Magnus the Red [21 PL, 415pts]: Diabolic Strength, Prescience, Warptime

+ HQ +

Necrosius the Undying [7 PL, 120pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Curse of the Leper, Miasma of Pestilence
Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Laspistol
The Changeling [5 PL, 100pts]: Boon of Change

++ Total: [106 PL, 1996pts] ++

changling is probably changing in jans codex

I think a few cultists for feeding the pox horde with TDW stratagem is better than starting with all pox walkers. Using Cultists as screens for charges, whose casualties only reinforce the pox mob is just nasty.

Plus Necrosious, Typhus, and Magnus all BFF on a battlefield is a fluff abomination.


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I run Poxes with Typhus and a Tallyman. Blades, and Vitality buff the poxes, and if need be, VOTLW against bigger traps.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think a few cultists for feeding the pox horde with TDW stratagem is better than starting with all pox walkers. Using Cultists as screens for charges, whose casualties only reinforce the pox mob is just nasty.

Plus Necrosious, Typhus, and Magnus all BFF on a battlefield is a fluff abomination.


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I run Poxes with Typhus and a Tallyman. Blades, and Vitality buff the poxes, and if need be, VOTLW against bigger traps.

What does Tallyman offer that I am missing? Rerolls?

I admit, fluff wise, I don't pay attention... I only play the game, I don't read fluff.

yes re roll missed hits in fight phase, pretty strong in assault heavy Dg lists.

valdier wrote:

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think a few cultists for feeding the pox horde with TDW stratagem is better than starting with all pox walkers. Using Cultists as screens for charges, whose casualties only reinforce the pox mob is just nasty.

Plus Necrosious, Typhus, and Magnus all BFF on a battlefield is a fluff abomination.


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I run Poxes with Typhus and a Tallyman. Blades, and Vitality buff the poxes, and if need be, VOTLW against bigger traps.

What does Tallyman offer that I am missing? Rerolls?

I admit, fluff wise, I don't pay attention... I only play the game, I don't read fluff.

Tallyman does the The Seven-fold Chant, 2D6 Refunds your CP if you roll a 7 lol. (16.66% chance)

blackmage wrote:yes re roll missed hits in fight phase, pretty strong in assault heavy Dg lists.

Yeah, I think I was going to use the Daemon Prince for that, but T-man can fit if I remove the chaos beasts.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
I think a few cultists for feeding the pox horde with TDW stratagem is better than starting with all pox walkers. Using Cultists as screens for charges, whose casualties only reinforce the pox mob is just nasty.

Sadly, I have no cultists

Tallyman does the The Seven-fold Chant, 2D6 Refunds your CP if you roll a 7 lol. (16.66% chance)

I'm not sure I would think this is really worth points... maybe 1 CP per game

There’s a death guard elites choice that allows all friendly units within 7” or possibly 3” (can’t remember exactly) of him to re roll 1s on their disgustingly resilient saves, I think it’s the plague surgeon but double check, one or two if those will make the poxes more survivable. Which will definitely help if you can’t run the cultists with the strategm.

Yeah, I think I was going to use the Daemon Prince for that, but T-man can fit if I remove the chaos beasts.

yes but tallyman makes re roll ANY miss not just 1's, tallyman isn't play for the seven fold chant btw.

I mean.... its INTERESTING.... thats a lot of zombies. However, other than magnus (and to a lesser extent, the drones) you have no real threatening units; if someone can blast your one unit of zombies with flies off the board; they can gun down anything else with ease. I'd run the guy that denies chares from attacking first myself. I mean.. it looks interesting, thats a lot of zombies

 Zid wrote:
I mean.... its INTERESTING.... thats a lot of zombies. However, other than magnus (and to a lesser extent, the drones) you have no real threatening units; if someone can blast your one unit of zombies with flies off the board; they can gun down anything else with ease. I'd run the guy that denies chares from attacking first myself. I mean.. it looks interesting, thats a lot of zombies

The Daemon Prince and the Bloat Drones can do ok vs light tanks as well. You are right though that it is a bit limited if there is a lot of heavy armor on the table. The zombies are damaging tanks up to T7 on a 2 and mortal wounding on a 5+. I think that + psykers to toss lots of mortals makes it capable but not amazing at tank busting. I have modified things a little to put back in a maelific lord for more tank killing psykiness, but also cause I don't like the spawns.

I will see how it does in the next week or so

with 6 normal smites and Magnus smite usually you can handle tanks.

 blackmage wrote:
with 6 normal smites and Magnus smite usually you can handle tanks.

What if these Beta Smite rules stick around? I dunno, I guess I'm of the opinion that not getting myself attached to smite spam is a better long term plan as we all knew it was going to go away eventually lol

The zombies are so slow that they shouldn't get a chance to do much armor busting against a competent opponent. I owuldn;t count on it anyway..

@Zid - I would just assume those rules stick around in some form. That way you'll be pleasantly surprised if they don't. The decision to spend big on a tourney army based on mass smite is a risky move right now IMO. It seems likely to me that multi-Smite gets hit with the nerf bat.

I know it is a DG list but mobility will be a key concern as the primary fast attack units (Magnus, drones, Prince) will be your opponents choice targets.

Also smite spam cannot be used as anti-vehicle in this list. The mobility isn't there. Magnus can put out damage but will be highly exposed due to the rest of the list moving slow - even if he downs a vehicle turn one against gunline heavy armies he will likely be isolated. The DP is the only other unit with sufficient mobility to choose what you smite, otherwise your opponent will be dictating your smite priority.

 Zid wrote:

 blackmage wrote:
with 6 normal smites and Magnus smite usually you can handle tanks.

What if these Beta Smite rules stick around? I dunno, I guess I'm of the opinion that not getting myself attached to smite spam is a better long term plan as we all knew it was going to go away eventually lol

i really hope the beta will be used, im just saying in that list you have the tools to handle veichles. I ve seen what Magnus+Dp's can do in 1 single turn.



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this is a poxwalker list i had high degree of sucess
== Battalion Detachment == 3 CP Death Guard (1100 points)
HQ1: Malignant Plaguecaster (110), Miasma of pestilence (0), Blades of putrefaction (0) [110pts]

HQ2: Malignant Plaguecaster (110), Miasma of pestilence (0), Blades of putrefaction (0) [110pts]

HQ3: Typhus (175), Miasma of pestilence (0), Blades of putrefaction (0) [175pts] – WARLORD – Living Plague
TR1 Poxwalkers x 20 (120) [120pts]
TR2 Poxwalkers x 20 (120) [120pts]
TR oxwalkers x 20 (120) [120pts]
TR4 Poxwalkers x 20 (120) [120pts]
TR5 Cultist x10 40pts
EL1 Noxious Blightbringer (63),Plasma pistol (7) [70pts]
EL2 tallyman

== Supreme Command Detachment == 1 CP Daemon (900 points)
HQ4: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (146), 2x Malefic talon (10), Wings (24) virulent blessing (0) [180pts]
HQ5: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (146), 2x Malefic talon (10), Wings (24) Miasma of pestilence (0) [180pts]
HQ6: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (146), 2x Malefic talon (10), Wings (24) fleshy aboundance (0) [180pts]
HQ7: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (146), 2x Malefic talon (10), Wings (24) fleshy aboundance (0) [180pts]
HQ8: Daemon Prince of Nurgle (146), 2x Malefic talon (10), Wings (24) plague wind (0) [180pts]
i know is lot of spam but it works great

right now im testing this, less poxes more versatile


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [33 PL, 645pts] ++

+ HQ +

Malignant Plaguecaster [6 PL, 110pts]: Blades of Putrefaction, Plague Wind

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]: Miasma of Pestilence, Putrescent Vitality

+ Troops +

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 120pts]: 20x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 120pts]: 20x Poxwalker

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 120pts]: 20x Poxwalker

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [36 PL, 692pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [8 PL, 156pts]: Malefic talon, Miasma of Pestilence, The Suppurating Plate


+ Fast Attack +

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [36 PL, 720pts] ++

+ HQ +

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: Curse of the Leper, Malefic talon, Wings

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, stream of corruption or fleshy aboundance, Wings

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: Malefic talon, virulent blessing, Wings

Daemon Prince of Nurgle [9 PL, 180pts]: fleshy aboundance, Malefic talon, Wings

++ Total: [105 PL, 1995pts] ++
i could spam one more smite using 2 malefic lords and take out 1 prince.

I like that Chaos Daemons varient; spammy as hell, but looks fun! I'll definitely be picking up the Daemons Dex in the new year when it drops

it's kind of list you play in ETC.