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With the great rift and the Daemon Primarch's spending so much time in the materium, can Daemon Primarchs stay in the material realm? Normal Daemons can't unless entombed in a daemon engine or artifact, or else it takes great energy to bring daemons into the materium. Is their any lore of Daemon princes and their ability or lack there of, of staying in the materium?

Unfortunately they cannot stay in the material realm without something to tie them to it. From: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Angron

The Warp Storm that had carried the Devourer of Stars to Armageddon had started dying out, cutting off the vital supply of Warp energy that allowed Angron and the other daemons to remain in the Materium. Angron then reluctantly stopped his advance on Armageddon Secundus and ordered his forces to build monuments to the Blood God in the equatorial jungles separating both continents. The Chaotic army then spent the following weeks erecting colossal piles out of the skulls of the fallen defenders, anointing them with the blood of sacrificed prisoners and slaves, as well as their own.

But they are more constant in the material realm, for daemon princes and greater daemons, if they are banished back to the warp it takes hundreds if not thousands of years for them to come back, so the daemon primarchs have to be different.

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
But they are more constant in the material realm, for daemon princes and greater daemons, if they are banished back to the warp it takes hundreds if not thousands of years for them to come back, so the daemon primarchs have to be different.

Actually they're banished for one hundred years and a day. That's how long Angron was banished for by the Grey Knights on Armageddon.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
But they are more constant in the material realm, for daemon princes and greater daemons, if they are banished back to the warp it takes hundreds if not thousands of years for them to come back, so the daemon primarchs have to be different.

Actually they're banished for one hundred years and a day. That's how long Angron was banished for by the Grey Knights on Armageddon.

it honestly varies, chaos isn't consistant

I would imagine that GW could always use the loophole of inventing dark rituals for followers to conduct in order to shorten the duration of banishment.

This is where 40k goes into the realm of weird.

In a normal situation (daemons from a warp storm/ rift/ect.) they cannot sustain themselves when the chaos energy subsides.

However, there are exceptions to this rule (Obviously)

If a willing person becomes possesed by a daemon, then the daemon doesn't need to rely on warp energy to sustain themselves. Khorne cultist (AKA KDK) do this all the time to have a legion of khorne physically in the world, hense those daemons actually bleed and such.

The second thing is, artifacts possesing chaos energy can also keep a daemon in the marterial universe, it's happened many times and it's more common than you think.

Daemon princes are basically mortals who gave up their material bodies to become pure chaos essence. Basically making them a bastardized version of how daemons manifest.

The primarchs could technically find means of staying in the material universe, but to them it's not really worth the effort. Especially when it such a resource heavy endeavour that could all come crashing down if some lucky imperial gets a good hit on them.

So in summary. It is possible, but they just don't bother

Iirc Magnus can exist outside of the warp without issues because he brought with him the planet of the sorcerers which fuels him.

BrianDavion wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:


it honestly varies, chaos isn't consistant

Exactly. Consistency is soooo not chaotic and all that ...

Ghargatuloth was banished for 1000 years.

X amount of time in the warp is Y amount of time in the materium. A hundred years could be 1000, 1000d6, or 2. We dunno.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
X amount of time in the warp is Y amount of time in the materium. A hundred years could be 1000, 1000d6, or 2. We dunno.

Right. For the entity involved the time banished could be a blink, or an eternity. But we record the time using their next appearance in the materium.

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