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Matt.Kingsley wrote:how will lootas kill deathstrikes?

That's what I was thinking...Even if I run out of ammo I can tank shock you off the table

With a gakload of dakka and favour of the dice gods.

Deadshot wrote:With a gakload of dakka and favour of the dice gods.

Could they hurt it though? Can they hurt AV12?

no, they're str 5

Matt.Kingsley wrote:no, they're str 5

That's what I thought...they won't do anything.

im2randomghgh wrote:

Matt.Kingsley wrote:no, they're str 5

That's what I thought...they won't do anything.

Lootas are S7 w/ D3 shots.

Sekminara wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Matt.Kingsley wrote:no, they're str 5

That's what I thought...they won't do anything.

Lootas are S7 w/ D3 shots.

Really? Either way, Doesn't save them from a deathstrike missile.

With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Sekminara wrote:With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Well the Lootas get an average of 2 shots per model/turn, which at BS2 is 0.666 hits. It takes six attempts to get a piercing hit, meaning your chances are now at 0.111, and it takes 3 tries to get a destroyed result, assuming it isn't ap - because I don't know the stats for a deff gun, not factoring for smoke launchers and cover.

Plus they both have heavy bolters so subtract 2 looters a turn, and also I can just tank shock your off the board right away since you have no PK to threaten me with in assault.

Deathstrike= Broadside 70

DreadlordME! wrote:Deathstrike= Broadside 70

A single broadside wouldn't. kill two deathstrike launchers. 75% to hit, 66% chance to pen, 50% chance to destroy, that averages four turn to kill one. By then, both will have launched their payloads, and the broadside would be dead. Don't get me wrong, an amount of broadside equal to the two deathstrikes point wise would win, because that's four broadsides. That means that you could destroy one a turn with four, and with 2x2 broadsides a single missile wouldn't be able to eliminate all your broadsides.

So I'll treat your post as 2x2 Broadsides for 280

In response to that, 10 Incubi-220

im2randomghgh wrote:

Sekminara wrote:With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Well the Lootas get an average of 2 shots per model/turn, which at BS2 is 0.666 hits. It takes six attempts to get a piercing hit, meaning your chances are now at 0.111, and it takes 3 tries to get a destroyed result, assuming it isn't ap - because I don't know the stats for a deff gun, not factoring for smoke launchers and cover.

Plus they both have heavy bolters so subtract 2 looters a turn, and also I can just tank shock your off the board right away since you have no PK to threaten me with in assault.

Here's the math with an average of 2 shots model (with 20 models)

p(hit)*p(pen)*p(destroy) * (# of Models) * (# of shots/model) = (1/3)*(1/6)*(1/3)*2*20= 0.74 or w/ cover *(1/2) = 0.37

That's just the probability of getting destroyed. This doesn't include being immobilized, WD, shaken, or stunned.

Heavy bolters would be able to kill (1/2)*(2/3)*3= 1 Loota per turn / vehicle

If you moved to tanked shock you wouldn't be shooting (the missile), and to tank shock you could not be stunned or immobilized. You would also need to actually move up to the lootas, and assuming you're more than 24 inches away, that would take you 2 turns at the very least. At that point the probability of the lootas having immobilized, WD , shaken, or stunned you increases by a large factor.

Really Lootas were made to take down / suppress AV11 & AV12.

FIne 4 Broadsides 280

Which he countered with Incubi. In response, Stormraven, 205 points. Have fun damaging me at strength four. Oh, wait...

Seeing as how that is a GK Psychic SR, the best thing would be another one. Mindstrikes= 4 glancing hits standard because of perils.

Soroitas command squad
3x multi-melta

145

Still only have 1D6 against it. And no sane person would come within 24".

Deadshot wrote:Seeing as how that is a GK Psychic SR, the best thing would be another one. Mindstrikes= 4 glancing hits standard because of perils.

Vindicare-145

3 squads of 10 Warrior Acolytes with Laspistols and Bolters 150

Deadshot wrote:Still only have 1D6 against it. And no sane person would come within 24".

30" they can be relentless so I think they could get ya



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Deadshot wrote:3 squads of 10 Warrior Acolytes with Laspistols and Bolters 150

The living saint-115


You lol her she comes back forever.

Thawn-75, stand back up fight

That's a never ending battle. But I say jotww or a tess lab. You don't come back lol.

@ Thawn

St. Celestine.

BRING IT ON!

CthuluIsSpy wrote:@ Thawn

St. Celestine.

BRING IT ON!

Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, cybork body, burna - 125.

Would he win? Would he lose? Depends on what he rolls, but it would be a HILARIOUS fight.

I think the thread just got broken there.

If the SAG dies before he rolls a 12, then no one wins basically.

But I would SO try this!

Sekminara wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

Sekminara wrote:With two squads of Lootas up against two Deathstrikes, if the Lootas go first they'll win. They'll probably win anyway considering what it takes for the Deathstrike to actually fire.

Well the Lootas get an average of 2 shots per model/turn, which at BS2 is 0.666 hits. It takes six attempts to get a piercing hit, meaning your chances are now at 0.111, and it takes 3 tries to get a destroyed result, assuming it isn't ap - because I don't know the stats for a deff gun, not factoring for smoke launchers and cover.

Plus they both have heavy bolters so subtract 2 looters a turn, and also I can just tank shock your off the board right away since you have no PK to threaten me with in assault.

Here's the math with an average of 2 shots model (with 20 models)

p(hit)*p(pen)*p(destroy) * (# of Models) * (# of shots/model) = (1/3)*(1/6)*(1/3)*2*20= 0.74 or w/ cover *(1/2) = 0.37

That's just the probability of getting destroyed. This doesn't include being immobilized, WD, shaken, or stunned.

Heavy bolters would be able to kill (1/2)*(2/3)*3= 1 Loota per turn / vehicle

If you moved to tanked shock you wouldn't be shooting (the missile), and to tank shock you could not be stunned or immobilized. You would also need to actually move up to the lootas, and assuming you're more than 24 inches away, that would take you 2 turns at the very least. At that point the probability of the lootas having immobilized, WD , shaken, or stunned you increases by a large factor.

Really Lootas were made to take down / suppress AV11 & AV12.

You still have one third of .111 chance to destroy one, per turn/models, meaning more than. Meaning that about 4 turns are needed. In four turns, I will probably have fired both missiles, and you'd be dead.


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CthuluIsSpy wrote:I think the thread just got broken there.

@ Big Mek

5 CCW/BP scouts in a LSS.


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10 Warriors w/ dark lance-115

TheAngrySquig wrote:10 Warriors w/ dark lance-115

Tactical squad with ML/flamer-170

Ironclad Dread with Seismic Hammer/Meltagun and Hurricaine bolter and 2 HKs and Ironclad Assault Launchers. (Assault and Defensive grenades.)

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