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‘Just give us strong, smart and brave lads and the Sons of Russ will endure.’
‘Just sons?’ said Tyra, her humour edged with a hard look. ‘Perhaps there is more water that must learn to flow.’
Arjac looked at this fierce woman, the sharp spear held easily in her hand, and recalled that she had overcome her fear not with psychodoctrination but raw courage. She had been the first to run to aid him against the wyrm, whether he needed her or not. The spirit of Fenris was in all of its people, elder and child, man and woman. He had seen first-hand that Roboute Guilliman had brought back miracle warriors from the time of the Allfather Abroad. Space Marines moulded from even sharper steel. If that was possible, anything was. He laughed at the thought.
Tyra frowned at him, thinking he mocked her. He calmed his humour and bowed his head in apology, eyes never leaving hers.
‘Perhaps,’ he said.

After the siege of fenris only a few tribes left after the battle and grey knight purges, wolves are trying to protect them so they can recover. this a conversation arjac has with a tribeswoman


Edit: Just finished reading
Njal gets a 30k Thousand sons sourceror stuck in his head who tells him the 13th company are trapped on prospero in the mirror maze and that if they return him to his body they can save him. Njal, Arjac, Bjorn and Lukas go on a trip to prospero
Basically the wolves now have the none wulfen 13th compnay back who were stuck in the portal maze on prospero for 10k years. 200 30k marines + their vehicles including a stormbird, mastadon, spartans etc. all the current wolves are going around like what the hell is that thing, the 13th joke about Bjorn a bloodclaw being the most revered and ancinet warrior etc. Lukas outwits magnus allowing everyone to escape, the TS is disgusted with what magnus and Ts have become

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I, for one, welcome our new shield maiden overlords...

It's going to make some people angry, some people happy, and most people will just go "meh"...

This thread, however, will likely go to hell in a handbasket faster than you can say "boobplate"...

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Boobplate ? I'd imagine just enough straps and wotnot to enable running and fighting will be sufficient for the skjaldmær of Fenris

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yeah well if anyone was going to just magicly break 30 years of real tradtion and 10k years of setting tradtion "because" it'd be the space wolves

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If Cawl found a way to make Marines female, I'd accept that. Again, I won't go into whether it SHOULD be changed, but if that's how it was done, I could work with that.

If the Space Wolves just "magically" learned how to do it, and were the only ones who did, I'd be leading the new crusade to have Space Wolves take the coveted "Muh spiritual liege" trophy and let the Ultramarines have a break!

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Funny how people immediately seem to think this means female marines.

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BrianDavion wrote:yeah well if anyone was going to just magicly break 30 years of real tradtion and 10k years of setting tradtion "because" it'd be the space wolves


Sgt_Smudge wrote:If Cawl found a way to make Marines female, I'd accept that. Again, I won't go into whether it SHOULD be changed, but if that's how it was done, I could work with that.

If the Space Wolves just "magically" learned how to do it, and were the only ones who did, I'd be leading the new crusade to have Space Wolves take the coveted "Muh spiritual liege" trophy and let the Ultramarines have a break!



Female marines... Sheild maidens... Space maidens, wild maidens, claw maidens...

Lol.

Only space wolves break rules almost to a 4th wall level!

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BrianDavion wrote:
yeah well if anyone was going to just magicly break 30 years of real tradtion and 10k years of setting tradtion "because" it'd be the space wolves


I can wholeheartedly get behind that view... If there is one legion that does things their own way and damn the codex, it's the Vlka Fenryka...

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tneva82 wrote:
Funny how people immediately seem to think this means female marines.
Not trying to create conflict here, but what ELSE is it supposed to mean?

Arjac mentions that he needs male fighters. Tyra says words along the lines of "Why just men? Surely that needs to change".
Now, maybe by fighters, Arjac might be referring to the human auxiliaries of the Wolves, their "PDF" equivalent instead of or as well as the Astartes themselves. However, I was under the impression and wouldn't know why this wouldn't be the case, that there were women in the Fenris auxilia too. After all, not all auxilia is made up of failed aspirants - they can be self-managing stocks, recruitment, or made up of the failed stock.

So, as I understood, there were already women in this force. This would make the above train of thought that Arjac is referring to more than just the Space Marines incorrect - why would Tyra have that response?
No, the only logical thing she can be referring to is Female Astartes. Arjac's own thought supports that - he goes on to think about the changes that have been made to Space Marines, how they've become even better than before, and wonders if similar changes could occur.

This doesn't mean Female Marines are a thing right now - but it is a reference to the idea of them, and could indicate a change in GW's attitude to it. Maybe Cawl will find a way. Maybe the Wolves will suddenly be able to. That's what people seem to be discussing.

Curious to hear other interpretations, but this seems pretty cut and dry.

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There are definitely women fighters in the Wolves PDF force. One is a character in Battle of the Fang.

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pm713 wrote:
There are definitely women fighters in the Wolves PDF force. One is a character in Battle of the Fang.
There we are, I was thinking about that, but wasn't sure if I'd made that up in my head. Thank you!

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 ChaosDad wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
yeah well if anyone was going to just magicly break 30 years of real tradtion and 10k years of setting tradtion "because" it'd be the space wolves


I can wholeheartedly get behind that view... If there is one legion that does things their own way and damn the codex, it's the Vlka Fenryka...


They have only one rule... We make them up as we go along.

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Borbon45 wrote:
‘Just give us strong, smart and brave lads and the Sons of Russ will endure.’
‘Just sons?’ said Tyra, her humour edged with a hard look. ‘Perhaps there is more water that must learn to flow.’
Arjac looked at this fierce woman, the sharp spear held easily in her hand, and recalled that she had overcome her fear not with psychodoctrination but raw courage. She had been the first to run to aid him against the wyrm, whether he needed her or not. The spirit of Fenris was in all of its people, elder and child, man and woman. He had seen first-hand that Roboute Guilliman had brought back miracle warriors from the time of the Allfather Abroad. Space Marines moulded from even sharper steel. If that was possible, anything was. He laughed at the thought.
Tyra frowned at him, thinking he mocked her. He calmed his humour and bowed his head in apology, eyes never leaving hers.
‘Perhaps,’ he said.

After the siege of fenris only a few tribes left after the battle and grey knight purges, wolves are trying to protect them so they can recover. this a conversation arjac has with a tribeswoman


Edit: Just finished reading
Njal gets a 30k Thousand sons sourceror stuck in his head who tells him the 13th company are trapped on prospero in the mirror maze and that if they return him to his body they can save him. Njal, Arjac, Bjorn and Lukas go on a trip to prospero
Basically the wolves now have the none wulfen 13th compnay back who were stuck in the portal maze on prospero for 10k years. 200 30k marines + their vehicles including a stormbird, mastadon, spartans etc. all the current wolves are going around like what the hell is that thing, the 13th joke about Bjorn a bloodclaw being the most revered and ancinet warrior etc. Lukas outwits magnus allowing everyone to escape, the TS is disgusted with what magnus and Ts have become


Curious. No mention of why anyone on Fenris would need psycho indoctrination?

Just seems like they need some miracle marine models and give the TS the usual kicking.
Still why search for a joan of arc, when you could get 50 arturs for the effort.
Wasnt the the woman in BOTF a Inq?
   
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the ancient wrote:
Borbon45 wrote:
‘Just give us strong, smart and brave lads and the Sons of Russ will endure.’
‘Just sons?’ said Tyra, her humour edged with a hard look. ‘Perhaps there is more water that must learn to flow.’
Arjac looked at this fierce woman, the sharp spear held easily in her hand, and recalled that she had overcome her fear not with psychodoctrination but raw courage. She had been the first to run to aid him against the wyrm, whether he needed her or not. The spirit of Fenris was in all of its people, elder and child, man and woman. He had seen first-hand that Roboute Guilliman had brought back miracle warriors from the time of the Allfather Abroad. Space Marines moulded from even sharper steel. If that was possible, anything was. He laughed at the thought.
Tyra frowned at him, thinking he mocked her. He calmed his humour and bowed his head in apology, eyes never leaving hers.
‘Perhaps,’ he said.

After the siege of fenris only a few tribes left after the battle and grey knight purges, wolves are trying to protect them so they can recover. this a conversation arjac has with a tribeswoman


Edit: Just finished reading
Njal gets a 30k Thousand sons sourceror stuck in his head who tells him the 13th company are trapped on prospero in the mirror maze and that if they return him to his body they can save him. Njal, Arjac, Bjorn and Lukas go on a trip to prospero
Basically the wolves now have the none wulfen 13th compnay back who were stuck in the portal maze on prospero for 10k years. 200 30k marines + their vehicles including a stormbird, mastadon, spartans etc. all the current wolves are going around like what the hell is that thing, the 13th joke about Bjorn a bloodclaw being the most revered and ancinet warrior etc. Lukas outwits magnus allowing everyone to escape, the TS is disgusted with what magnus and Ts have become


Curious. No mention of why anyone on Fenris would need psycho indoctrination?

Just seems like they need some miracle marine models and give the TS the usual kicking.
Still why search for a joan of arc, when you could get 50 arturs for the effort.
Wasnt the the woman in BOTF a Inq?


Which kicking... Are they on the 3rd, 4th space wolf kick to the nether regions...

Magnus got a spear in the eye, beaten by Grimor, punched by Bjorn and more.

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Personally, I think this is just Gav Thorpe having a bit of fun. When you get right down to it, the real reason space marines are exclusively male is because their original fluff was written in the 1980s. Back then, it just seemed obvious that a bunch of genetically-enhanced super-soldiers would be male. If they didn't already exist in the setting and were introduced today, things would probably be different (see the Stormcast in AoS). It doesn't mean GW are actually planning to give us female space marines. Gav's a freelancer these days and wouldn't even necessarily know if GW were planning such a thing.
   
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 Duskweaver wrote:
It doesn't mean GW are actually planning to give us female space marines. Gav's a freelancer these days and wouldn't even necessarily know if GW were planning such a thing.


OTOH Fenrisian equivalent to SoBs won't really contradict nor lore nor SW attitude.

Not to mention that there always were rumours that SWs are ...less indoctrinated than other loyalist SMs considering 'everasked SM question'

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That's my read as well, keep in mind Arjac doesn't exactly have much say in the creation of new marines, he could run around screaming "GIVE US FEMMARINES" all he wants but he's really not in a position to dictate.

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 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Funny how people immediately seem to think this means female marines.
Not trying to create conflict here, but what ELSE is it supposed to mean?


Howabout simply female warriors? It's not like space marines are Imperium's only fighting force? Leeeeet's seee....Howabout we imagine huge large army that fields human warriors. Let's give them flak armour. Then arm them with lasgun! And hey let's call them Imperial guard.

What a novel concept! Entirely new type of army in the world of warhammer 40k! IMAGINE THAT! Non-space marine force for Imperium. What an AMAZING CONCEPT!


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 jhe90 wrote:
 ChaosDad wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
yeah well if anyone was going to just magicly break 30 years of real tradtion and 10k years of setting tradtion "because" it'd be the space wolves


I can wholeheartedly get behind that view... If there is one legion that does things their own way and damn the codex, it's the Vlka Fenryka...


They have only one rule... We make them up as we go along.


The one rule of the wolves I think is best summarized in the famous meme:

-See that army?
-Yes, sir.
-I don't want to.
-Understood.


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the ancient wrote:

Curious. No mention of why anyone on Fenris would need psycho indoctrination?


Marines undergo psycho-indoctrination. It is part of what makes them Know No Fear. The point of that text is that the tribeswoman showed great bravery in coming to aid Arjac. She hasn't been psycho-indoctrinated, or physically enhanced, yet she quickly and knowingly exposes herself to danger.

If being brave is doing something despite your fear, then 'normal' humans are more brave than Marines who have had their fear inhibited/diminished/tailored to be more easily controlled. (All else being equal this could mean that humans can be more brave than a Marine can ever be. Depending on how you define being a hero it can also mean that Marines can never be as heroic as a human).
   
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 jhe90 wrote:



Female marines... Sheild maidens... Space maidens, wild maidens, claw maidens...

Lol.

Only space wolves break rules almost to a 4th wall level!


Knowing the level at which GW operates with their naming conventions for the Space Wolves, they are going to be named something like : Wolfshield wolfclawmaidens...

*insert image of Hodor*
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tneva82 wrote:
 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Funny how people immediately seem to think this means female marines.
Not trying to create conflict here, but what ELSE is it supposed to mean?


Howabout simply female warriors? It's not like space marines are Imperium's only fighting force? Leeeeet's seee....Howabout we imagine huge large army that fields human warriors. Let's give them flak armour. Then arm them with lasgun! And hey let's call them Imperial guard.

What a novel concept! Entirely new type of army in the world of warhammer 40k! IMAGINE THAT! Non-space marine force for Imperium. What an AMAZING CONCEPT!

So you didn't read a word of what I wrote except what you quoted. Nice.

I already said that he COULD have been referring to the Fenris auxilia (and other forms of simple human warriors), but it makes no sense in context because:

- Fenris ALREADY has female soldiers in it's PDF - perhaps Arjac called them all male ("sons") when he meant "sons and daughters", but this makes no sense, because his response to when he's called out on it isn't "sorry, I meant sons and daughters". If he was talking about an already mixed gender group, why would Tyra talk about water needing to flow differently - it already does?

- Guardsmen can already be women - again, for the same reasons as above, it makes no sense to talk about this. Arjac doesn't clear up the miscommunication, Tyra's statement wouldn't make sense if women couldn't already fight, and even more so, why would defending Fenris be a concern for normal Guardsmen? That's a Space Wolf and PDF thing -- not regular Imperial Guard.

- He then goes on to think about Space Marines and the changes that the Primaris have brought to their ranks. If he wasn't talking about Space Marines, this semantic field would make no sense. Why would he think about Space Marines when according to you, he meant Guardsmen? It's more logical in context to think he was talking about Space Marines - first, he mentions "sons". Tyra calls him out and suggests maybe women should be considered too, implying that they already aren't. Arjac then compares himself, a Space Marine, to her, and then thinks about all the changes that have recently occurred to Space Marine physiology.
Logically, how is he NOT talking about female Space Marines?

I understand that you're sick to death of hearing about them, sick to death of Space Marines getting the attention, and maybe you dislike the idea itself. That doesn't take away from the fact that here, it's pretty much cut and dry he's talking about female Astartes, not female guardsmen. We already have that - if he was referring to that, why would Tyra imply that it's not happened yet, and why didn't he correct his mistake about his choice of pronoun?

So yeah, it'd be lovely if you actually read what I posted instead of making some snarky point which I disproved in the previous post.

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At most, this shows that GW is thinking about female Space Marines and that they are considering introducing them in the future. After all, there are few reasons not to introduce them aside from tradition, and we all know how easily GW sweeps away tradition (see Guilliman, Cawl and the Primaris). And if there is any Space Marine group willing to break with tradition, it is the Space Wolves. Not to mention that a female Space Marine unit would fit with them thematically.

However, it is far more likely that it is just Gav Thorpe having a bit of fun. I think people read too much into it. Even in the novel Arjac is unsure about it. He says 'perhaps', which might just as well be a way for him to put an end to the awkward topic as an actual statement of 'perhaps it could happen'. So no, I do not think people need to fear the coming of the femmarines just yet

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the ancient wrote:
Borbon45 wrote:
‘Just give us strong, smart and brave lads and the Sons of Russ will endure.’
‘Just sons?’ said Tyra, her humour edged with a hard look. ‘Perhaps there is more water that must learn to flow.’
Arjac looked at this fierce woman, the sharp spear held easily in her hand, and recalled that she had overcome her fear not with psychodoctrination but raw courage. She had been the first to run to aid him against the wyrm, whether he needed her or not. The spirit of Fenris was in all of its people, elder and child, man and woman. He had seen first-hand that Roboute Guilliman had brought back miracle warriors from the time of the Allfather Abroad. Space Marines moulded from even sharper steel. If that was possible, anything was. He laughed at the thought.
Tyra frowned at him, thinking he mocked her. He calmed his humour and bowed his head in apology, eyes never leaving hers.
‘Perhaps,’ he said.

After the siege of fenris only a few tribes left after the battle and grey knight purges, wolves are trying to protect them so they can recover. this a conversation arjac has with a tribeswoman


Edit: Just finished reading
Njal gets a 30k Thousand sons sourceror stuck in his head who tells him the 13th company are trapped on prospero in the mirror maze and that if they return him to his body they can save him. Njal, Arjac, Bjorn and Lukas go on a trip to prospero
Basically the wolves now have the none wulfen 13th compnay back who were stuck in the portal maze on prospero for 10k years. 200 30k marines + their vehicles including a stormbird, mastadon, spartans etc. all the current wolves are going around like what the hell is that thing, the 13th joke about Bjorn a bloodclaw being the most revered and ancinet warrior etc. Lukas outwits magnus allowing everyone to escape, the TS is disgusted with what magnus and Ts have become


Curious. No mention of why anyone on Fenris would need psycho indoctrination?

Just seems like they need some miracle marine models and give the TS the usual kicking.
Still why search for a joan of arc, when you could get 50 arturs for the effort.
Wasnt the the woman in BOTF a Inq?

There wasn't an Inqusitor in Battle of the Fang. You might be thinking of the Emperor's Gift.

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Maybe he just watched Lagetha on Vikings and went - Hell yeah.

And why wouldn't you.

There are already various warrior roles open to women - although the guard does not recruit from Fenris as has been said they have their own pdf.
They can be chosen by the Inquisition

It possible they may even feel the calling to join the Sisters.

Female Space marines could be interesting...not a major want for me but I am not auto against it.

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ChaosDad wrote:
 jhe90 wrote:
 ChaosDad wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
yeah well if anyone was going to just magicly break 30 years of real tradtion and 10k years of setting tradtion "because" it'd be the space wolves


I can wholeheartedly get behind that view... If there is one legion that does things their own way and damn the codex, it's the Vlka Fenryka...


They have only one rule... We make them up as we go along.


The one rule of the wolves I think is best summarized in the famous meme:

-See that army?
-Yes, sir.
-I don't want to.
-Understood.



ChaosDad wrote:
 jhe90 wrote:



Female marines... Sheild maidens... Space maidens, wild maidens, claw maidens...

Lol.

Only space wolves break rules almost to a 4th wall level!


Knowing the level at which GW operates with their naming conventions for the Space Wolves, they are going to be named something like : Wolfshield wolfclawmaidens...

*insert image of Hodor*
Wolf wolf, wolf, wooolf wolf WOLF! Wolf.


Mr Morden wrote:Maybe he just watched Lagetha on Vikings and went - Hell yeah.

And why wouldn't you.

There are already various warrior roles open to women - although the guard does not recruit from Fenris as has been said they have their own pdf.
They can be chosen by the Inquisition

It possible they may even feel the calling to join the Sisters.

Female Space marines could be interesting...not a major want for me but I am not auto against it.


Lagatha, hell yeah!

Even a marine wants Lagathai in the PDF.

And lol... Space wolf naming is a tad... Tad broken...

Yep. Point wolves at enemy. Tell them they working for thousand sons... Profit.

Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.

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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.

FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.  
   
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 Mr Morden wrote:


Female Space marines could be interesting...not a major want for me but I am not auto against it.


But they better set background properly for that - one rabbit from the hat is enough for several editions at least .

OTOH outside geneseed - much of marine capabilities could be achieved via more common means of AM. It's not that genhanced and cybernized troops aren't dime a dozen as elites and among 'bodyguards' of influential people, imperial and heretical - and many of 'em give !SPESS MEHREENS! good run for they money.

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 Duskweaver wrote:
When you get right down to it, the real reason space marines are exclusively male is because their original fluff was written in the 1980s. Back then, it just seemed obvious that a bunch of genetically-enhanced super-soldiers would be male.

Eh, even then it was backwards thinking, really. Vasquez was the most badass Space Marine in Aliens, despite it being made in 80s. That was following Lieutenant Ripley from Alien, made in 1979. There are lots more examples, really, but just to illustrate a point, if it was written for and worked for big blockbuster movie, it really couldn't have been that novel idea.

Sadly, even today, there's still small loud minority of people more fit for 80s, but these 500 years ago, thinks their army will somehow magically get cooties if it ceases to be all-cock club and dem wimmins dare to venture out of kitch... their containment ghetto single army. Just see above.
   
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Yes lets make inferior space marines.
30% less muscle mass especially in the upper body where most combat strength is located.
Less bone density that only gets worse over time.
Toxic shock issues from poor hygiene in space armor suits for long periods of time in the field.

Yeah this will work well and not be an utter waste of time and resources to make a less effective super soldier.

Females already serve the Emperor in the Army and the Navy as well as in certain other specialty organizations because they can and do excel in them.
The Astartes is not suited to females at all. If you want women in powered armor please inquire with the Sororitas.



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