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My apologies if this has been asked before or FAQd. Since Grim Resolve from the Dark Angels codex states that the unit must not have moved in its PREVIOUS movement phase, does that mean that the ability cannot be used on the first turn?

I say grim resolve cant be used on the first turn, because there was no previous movement phase. Others disagree.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/749357.page

Long thread short, it comes down to how you interpret the rule. The rule says it applies only if you did not move in your previous movement phase.

One side says you have to have had a movement phase to have not moved in your movement phase.

The other side says if you have not had a movement phase then you have not moved in your movement phase.

Both sides have weight, so we really need an FAQ. Until then, discuss with opponent before the game.

It will be FAQ'ed and will absolutely apply to the first turn. Play it like that.

Shrapnelbait wrote:
My apologies if this has been asked before or FAQd. Since Grim Resolve from the Dark Angels codex states that the unit must not have moved in its PREVIOUS movement phase, does that mean that the ability cannot be used on the first turn?

RAI is obvious with Grim Resolve, if they have moved they don't get it. If they are yet to move they do. First turn would apply as they have not yet moved.

For what it's worth, I agree the default should be to let it apply first turn too. It makes more sense to me.

It's not exactly super powerful either, it's only going to apply to turn 1 Overwatch or Auspex Scan (or similar effects), which are usually at a reduced BS anyway.

 SeanDavid1991 wrote:
First turn would apply as they have not yet moved.

How did they get on the battlefield without moving ?

 p5freak wrote:

 SeanDavid1991 wrote:
First turn would apply as they have not yet moved.

How did they get on the battlefield without moving ?

They were Set Up, which because it didn't happen in a Phase, doesn't count as Reinforcements, so they don't count as moving.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
They were Set Up, which because it didn't happen in a Phase, doesn't count as Reinforcements, so they don't count as moving.

Still grim resolve requires a previous movement phase in which they didnt move. No previous movement phase, no grim resolve. Thats RAW. You are the strict RAW guy. How can you turn away from RAW ?

 p5freak wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
They were Set Up, which because it didn't happen in a Phase, doesn't count as Reinforcements, so they don't count as moving.

Still grim resolve requires a previous movement phase in which they didnt move. No previous movement phase, no grim resolve. Thats RAW. You are the strict RAW guy. How can you turn away from RAW ?

At no point did I say that was my opinion, I was providing a potential opinion.

My official opinion is that there is not enough information to make a 100% unambiguous RaW answer.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 p5freak wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:
They were Set Up, which because it didn't happen in a Phase, doesn't count as Reinforcements, so they don't count as moving.

Still grim resolve requires a previous movement phase in which they didnt move. No previous movement phase, no grim resolve. Thats RAW. You are the strict RAW guy. How can you turn away from RAW ?

At no point did I say that was my opinion, I was providing a potential opinion.

My official opinion is that there is not enough information to make a 100% unambiguous RaW answer.

I agree RAW is ambiguous buuuuuut...

Common sense though. It's very simple..
Have I moved at all this turn?

yes No grim resolve

no Grim resolve

Common sense might say that since one of the requirements of Grim Resolve is that you haven't moved in the prior movement phase. Since there hasn't been a movement phase you can't claim the basic requirement for fulfilling this tactic.

One man's common sense is another man's "Huh!?"