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2018/05/18 18:06:16
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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. . let's please keep relevant posts in this thread so we do not mess up the USA politics thread.
Hope any and all Dakkanauts and theirs are safe and sound
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44173954
Shortly after the shooting began in the town of about 13,000 residents, a man carrying an American flag, wearing a Trump hat, and carrying a pistol on his hip approached news cameras.
The man, who did not give his name, said his goal was to "get to the school. Make America great again."
Another man then told reporters "we need prayers".
"This idiot is walking down the street with a damned pistol on his side where we just had kids get shot," he said referring to the other man.
"I'm a guns rights person. I have guns. But this idiot is walking down here and saying he needs to make America great again. That's not what America needs."
uh huh.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2018/05/18 18:18:15
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Killer had pipe and pressure cooker bombs at and about the school. Holy crap.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 18:23:07
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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So reports are saying 9 students and 1 teacher dead, shooter in custody as well as 1 possible accomplice, IEDs found on school grounds and nearby.
Man this is crazy
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2018/05/18 18:23:27
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Two police injured, one critically
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 18:24:09
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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And of course some random ass dude shows up with an american flag, MAGA hat and an open carry pistol to the high school.
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2018/05/18 18:26:19
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Wasn't me. I am in Austin .
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 18:28:23
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Courageous Questing Knight
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Me, too, Frazzy... How completely sad...
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2018/05/18 18:37:55
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I don't even have anything to say about these events anymore. They see like they are occurring daily now. Its like, ok, well what else is going on in the news.
I do not think this culture has in itself the will to change and keep these things from happening. At least not for some time.
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2018/05/18 18:41:22
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Not the attitude needed.
Retain your outrage. Don't become inured to it. Keep shouting. The NRA and other gun lobbies can only offer 'hopes and prayers' before they lose all face and influence.
I'm not going on about gun ownership - just the organised charlatans who try to hand wave away yet another school massacre.
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2018/05/18 18:45:44
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Except bombs are illegal and not sold. We do not know how he/they acquired the firearms either.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 18:46:29
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Time and again America has decided it is prepared to pay this price for having guns. Now watch as the politicians offer their thoughts and prayers, while banking their NRA donations. It's gak.
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2018/05/18 18:50:31
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Crispy78 wrote:Time and again America has decided it is prepared to pay this price for having guns. Now watch as the politicians offer their thoughts and prayers, while banking their NRA donations. It's gak.
Again bombs are illegal and we do not know how he obtained the firearms yet.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 18:53:13
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Not the attitude needed.
Retain your outrage. Don't become inured to it. Keep shouting. The NRA and other gun lobbies can only offer 'hopes and prayers' before they lose all face and influence.
I'm not going on about gun ownership - just the organised charlatans who try to hand wave away yet another school massacre.
I don't really blame guns for this, honestly. The vast majority of Americans who own guns never shoot anyone. I do not blame them nor the NRA for this. If we didn't have such easy access to guns, we'd be seeing more bomb attacks.
I am not going to even read up on what this guy's problem was. Assuming it was a guy.
Oh wow! Last time I started a thread about a mass shooter, the thread got closed. Good luck!
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2018/05/18 19:27:44
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Yet you have a very high rate of gun crime - higher than other countries with similar gun laws.
Me, I can’t get a gun. Chances of me being shot. Virtually nil.
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2018/05/18 19:31:26
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, great for you. Since we are talking about ourselves, I am still here too.
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2018/05/18 19:37:51
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Me, I have, well a few. Judging by history. Chances of me being shot in California-high. Chanes here-low. Chances of my sofa being shot? High, as a warning to the other furniture.
As an aside why do women never clean their own guns?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/18 19:38:51
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 19:43:45
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Yet you have a very high rate of gun crime - higher than other countries with similar gun laws.
Me, I can’t get a gun. Chances of me being shot. Virtually nil.
Which means that the guns are not the damned problem. But the real issues are easy to just push to the side, since they will be too difficult to solve, don't sustain the 24 hour news cycle, and can't be used by leftist politicians to score re-election points in their home districts.
And you can get a gun in the UK. You just have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get a firearms license (not counting all the illegal guns floating around in Britain).
But keep slamming the NRA, which while not perfect, has been at the forefront of defending our Second Amendment rights.
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2018/05/18 19:51:51
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Ship's Officer
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I think this has more to do with a growing mental health problem, not necessarily being that guns are bad. People will use events like this to push their own agendas. At the end of the day if you have a crazy person (they're everywhere) with the will to harm others this individual will find a way to do so, with or without guns. It is easier to buy a gun than it is to cobble together bombs though.
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2018/05/18 19:55:52
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Frazzled wrote:Killer had pipe and pressure cooker bombs at and about the school. Holy crap.
what wut?
How many! o.O
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2018/05/18 19:56:36
Subject: Re:Sante Fe shooting
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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We're off to a lovely start.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
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2018/05/18 20:02:21
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Yet you have a very high rate of gun crime - higher than other countries with similar gun laws.
Me, I can’t get a gun. Chances of me being shot. Virtually nil.
the bigger issue is that America has a high violence rate in general. If you exclude every firearm related homicide from the metrics, the US still has a higher per capita murder rate than France even including all French firearms fatalities. Firearms could be explained as an exacerbation, but not the core of the issue.
oldravenman3025 wrote:
But keep slamming the NRA, which while not perfect, has been at the forefront of defending our Second Amendment rights.
I personally will happily slam the NRA personally. Looking at them today, their programs and rhetoric are painfully Goebellian (particularly Loesch and LaPierre), and even on gun topics they appear far more interested in being a wing of the GOP and keeping their fundraising apparatus than advancing the 2A as a civil rights issue, their silence on matters like the Castile shooting, the NFA repeal petition that got hundreds of thousands of signatures on the WH site, etc makes it hard to square a lot of their rhetoric.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
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2018/05/18 20:04:34
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I am not seeing a number yet.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 20:07:26
Subject: Re:Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Looks like more than one person involved:
UPDATE: A second person in custody is 18 years old and is believed to be a possible accomplice to the suspect in the Texas shooting, but not the shooter, according to a law enforcement official, reports @evanperez
— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) May 18, 2018
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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2018/05/18 20:07:44
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I personally will happily slam the NRA personally. Looking at them today, their programs and rhetoric are painfully Goebellian (particularly Loesch and LaPierre), and even on gun topics they appear far more interested in being a wing of the GOP and keeping their fundraising apparatus than advancing the 2A as a civil rights issue, their silence on matters like the Castile shooting, the NFA repeal petition that got hundreds of thousands of signatures on the WH site, etc makes it hard to square a lot of their rhetoric.
We are actually in agreement there.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 20:08:33
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Ephrata, PA
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They didn't say. Also, they detained a second suspect. Would make sense, kinda hard to hide bombs around the property while carrying a shotgun on the down-low.
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2018/05/18 20:12:33
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
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Interesting, the shooter apparently did the "long coat" thing in 90* weather, packing a shotgun and .38 revolver under there. Supposedly posted pictures of a "born to kill" shirt and a "duster" (the long coat) with all sorts of ridiculous symbols attached to it with goofy explanations
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
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2018/05/18 20:17:22
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Frazzled wrote:
I personally will happily slam the NRA personally. Looking at them today, their programs and rhetoric are painfully Goebellian (particularly Loesch and LaPierre), and even on gun topics they appear far more interested in being a wing of the GOP and keeping their fundraising apparatus than advancing the 2A as a civil rights issue, their silence on matters like the Castile shooting, the NFA repeal petition that got hundreds of thousands of signatures on the WH site, etc makes it hard to square a lot of their rhetoric.
We are actually in agreement there.
Same. I own what, like 8 guns? and have nothing for contempt for the NRA. I wish they would return to simply being advocates for gun safety and education instead of what they're doing now, and that's before we get into the fact they literally picked Oliver North as their president, which I would have deemed too ridiculous to even throw out there as a joke previous to it happening.
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2018/05/18 20:17:56
Subject: Sante Fe shooting
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Reports are shooter did not own the weapons.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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2018/05/18 20:19:40
Subject: Re:Sante Fe shooting
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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..
.. what could go wrong there eh ?
.Doorways : mankinds oldest enemy.
"The suspect from the Santa Fe ISD shooting scene has been booked into the Galveston County Jail. He is identified as Dimitrios Pagourtzis. Being held for Capital Murder; no bond."
apparently.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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2018/05/18 20:21:28
Subject: Re:Sante Fe shooting
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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The problem is if you get rid of all the excess doors schools have and pitch them into the sea, you're just going to raise sea levels. Truly we can't win.
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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