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Greetings fellow hobbyists.
There has been a question that has been bugging me for a long time.
Let's suppose I have a unit of dark angels scouts that are inside a land speeder storm.
This unit (scouts) has the ability to re-roll ones if they stay still.
Therefore do they get to re-roll ones if the LSS does not move.

Alexisfairos wrote:
Greetings fellow hobbyists.
There has been a question that has been bugging me for a long time.
Let's suppose I have a unit of dark angels scouts that are inside a land speeder storm.
This unit (scouts) has the ability to re-roll ones if they stay still.
Therefore do they get to re-roll ones if the LSS does not move.

If the re-roll is sourced from another model, no.

As for Grim Resolve proccing for open topped vehicles, there are two sides of a debate here at dakka, so bring some salt.

Core rules pg.9 transports :

Embarked units cannot normally do anything or be affected in any way whilst they are embarked.

No, they cant re-roll 1s, because they are embarked on a transport, not even when standing still. The open topped rule tells you what they can do. Which isnt using grim resolve.

It all comes down to whether a units own datasheet "effects" it or "affects" it. It it "effects" it, it works. If it "affects" it, it doesn't work.

I'm not a certified expert on English Grammar, but to me "affects" is an effect of external source, while a thing "effects" itself if the effect is coming from itself.

You affect something (verb) with an effect (noun).

 BaconCatBug wrote:

I'm not a certified expert on English Grammar.......

You can be 100% sure GW isnt either.....Only they know the intend of the embarked units on a transport rule.

Distance-based rules are blocked by the impossibility to measure the distance, but is there anything saying that other rules do not kick in?

After all, there are abilities on unit datasheets that are confirmed to work on the embarked units, like Instinctive Behaviour.

 alextroy wrote:
You affect something (verb) with an effect (noun).

Indeed, you can also 'effect change' (using it in proper verb context), but you can't 'effect' a unit - that would be 'affect'. This is literally not what it 'all comes down to'.