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++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [53 PL, 833pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord [5 PL, 74pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, No Chaos Mark

+ Heavy Support +

Forgefiend [9 PL, 148pts]: 2x Hades autocannons, Daemon jaws, Mark of Slaanesh

Forgefiend [9 PL, 148pts]: 2x Hades autocannons, Daemon jaws, Mark of Slaanesh

Forgefiend [9 PL, 148pts]: 2x Hades autocannons, Daemon jaws, Mark of Slaanesh

Havocs [7 PL, 105pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

Havocs [7 PL, 105pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

Havocs [7 PL, 105pts]: No Chaos Mark
. Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon
. Havoc w/ heavy weapon: Autocannon

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [69 PL, 1017pts] ++

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 93pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, No Chaos Mark

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 93pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, No Chaos Mark

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]: 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun, No Chaos Mark
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Helbrute [7 PL, 105pts]: No Chaos Mark, Power scourge, Reaper autocannon

Helbrute [7 PL, 90pts]: Missile launcher, No Chaos Mark, Reaper autocannon

Helbrute [7 PL, 90pts]: Missile launcher, No Chaos Mark, Reaper autocannon

+ Heavy Support +

Maulerfiend [9 PL, 132pts]: Lasher tendrils, No Chaos Mark

Maulerfiend [9 PL, 132pts]: Lasher tendrils, No Chaos Mark

Maulerfiend [9 PL, 132pts]: Lasher tendrils, No Chaos Mark

Need help on how to improve.
++ Total: [122 PL, 1850pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe

Looks cool, though I feel like it will really struggle against T8 (i.e. Knights). The list also has no staying power, seems to rely a lot on getting an alpha and blowing up opponents... It would be interesting to hear how this plays on the table honestly

Forgefiends have str8 Hades autocannons.
Maulerfiends have str12, 10, 8 fists.

There is also 2 piddly missile launchers from 2 brutes.

How would you add staying power?

Bump up the brutes to have twin lascannons

 CadianGateTroll wrote:
Forgefiends have str8 Hades autocannons.
Maulerfiends have str12, 10, 8 fists.

There is also 2 piddly missile launchers from 2 brutes.

How would you add staying power?

On a degrading bs 4 platform, that becomes bs 5 if they move... maulers can be scary, but thats why people blow them up first.

Psychic powers can help, but you have no room to add any to bolster staying power

Should i cut out forge fiends?

Are havocs worth their points?
Are mualer fiends worth their points?

Are helbrutes worth their points? I guess i can equip them with lascannons. But battle scribe is not giving an option to equip both arms with lascannons.

I, personally, would cut the forge fiends, bit only because I feel like defilers are better bang for the buck. I'm not sure how havocs rank with the new CA, I've seen people saying it's better to take chosen now, but I haven't looked closely.

I think maulerfiends are worth it, if used properly. I'm biased towards helbrutes but I do think the new points costs make them viable. You can't take two twin lascannons, but they can shoot twice if they take a wound, which is nice.

I'd consider bringing a warp smith to help out your vehicles if you do build this list. I love bringing lots of machines but watching them blow up makes me sad...

Forget forgefiends I run contemptors with dual butcher cannons in my death guard. Superior in every way.


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You need to go deathguard. Put twin lascannon/missile launchers on dreads and some contemptors who all can move and fire with no penalty. Plenty of shooting.