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There are quite a few Orks milling around the top. Nick had a mirror match and knocked one down, but otherwise Orks seem to be doing well.

Deathwatch appear to be having very mixed to poor results.

A Necron list is sitting at #5 with two good wins and isn't relying on super heavies.

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Number 1 list with 127 cultists but dakka would have you believe that they are unplayable
   
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It's kind of a nice anti-anti-meta list (that can still kill knights). Everyone is taking knights so people take haywire and knight killers and no real horde clearing.

He took DE w/ Farseer on round 3....the haywire and ravagers didn't have anything to shoot.
Knights and loyal 32 on round 2.
And DE again on round 1.

It's taking them a while to finish updating the third round.

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Where can you find the lists I'm looking on BCP and not finding how to see the lists.
   
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The Salt Mine wrote:
Where can you find the lists I'm looking on BCP and not finding how to see the lists.


You have to get the phone app and pay the monthly fee ($5), unfortunately.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
The Salt Mine wrote:
Where can you find the lists I'm looking on BCP and not finding how to see the lists.


You have to get the phone app and pay the monthly fee ($5), unfortunately.


Figured as much. I guess Ill just wait then!
   
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The Salt Mine wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
The Salt Mine wrote:
Where can you find the lists I'm looking on BCP and not finding how to see the lists.


You have to get the phone app and pay the monthly fee ($5), unfortunately.


Figured as much. I guess Ill just wait then!


You don't need the monthly fee to see lists while the event is happening. I have the phone app, pay no fee, and can see the lists. You just click the little green paper image by a player's name.

Also, the current Top 10 are:

1. CSM (Daemon Princes, lots of Cultists, some Obliterators)
2. Blood Angels (no Captain Slamguinus or Knight Castellan, instead Librarian/Lemartes/Dreadnought HQ's and a Crusader)
3. Tau (Riptides and battalions)
4. Astra Militarum (Standard Imperial Soup: AM for CP and bodies, assault element, this time 3 Custodes Jetbike Captains and a Castellan)
5. Drukhari (Wracks, Grotesques, Flyers, allied battalion with Eldrad)
6. Asuryani (Psykers, Yvraine, 3 Crimson Hunters, 3 Razorwings)
7. Genestealer Cult (Index) (Psykers, Aberrants, Genestealers from an allied Hive Fleet)
8. Tau (Riptides, Broadsides)
9. Orks (Evil Sunz) (Like, everything that's in the Codex from the looks of it, this is just too big to try and summarize)
10. Necrons (Catacomb Command Barge, Ghost Arks, Doomsday Arks)

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Third round is done. Quite a spread in top 10.




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Audustum wrote:


You don't need the monthly fee to see lists while the event is happening. I have the phone app, pay no fee, and can see the lists. You just click the little green paper image by a player's name.


Ah cool - I did not know that!

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
Third round is done. Quite a spread in top 10.




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Audustum wrote:


You don't need the monthly fee to see lists while the event is happening. I have the phone app, pay no fee, and can see the lists. You just click the little green paper image by a player's name.


Ah cool - I did not know that!


Yeah it's handy, but you gotta remember to write down anything interesting before it's over, haha!
   
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Had to look at it on my phone was looking at it on my computer! Thanks for the heads up.
   
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Really cool to see such a wide variety of lists in the top ten, shows that the game is becoming really quite balanced

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Booger ork wrote:
Really cool to see such a wide variety of lists in the top ten, shows that the game is becoming really quite balanced


I'd hold off on that conclusion until the tournament's done. The only really surprising thing in the top 10 at the moment is Necrons and possibly BA but with a tournament this big it can take a little longer for the top lists to rise to the top just due to the sheer number of players. It's also wise to not take the army definition at face value. It appears the armies classified as Drukhari and AM are your standard soup armies, for example.
   
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Nice, I'd love to see Deathwatch do well with a mono list. In fact any list without Knights is cool with me.
   
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how high up is th best GK player?
   
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The best one I can see after a very quick search is Jesse Sell, with 2 wins and 1 loss at 136th place tied.
   
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The only lists in the current top ten that surprise me are the Necrons.

This CSM list is Ahriman and friends + mini Tzaangor bomb + Abby Cultists and oblits.

The 'BA' list is imperial soup. There's just a Crusader instead of Castellan and it uses the Emps Wrath Artillery detachment with 3 Basilisks and 6 HW squads. Standard stuff. I guess the HQs are slightly interesting choices?

The 3rd place Tau list is Riptide party using Tau and Sacea sept. Given the CA drops for Tau I'm not surprised.

The most interesting thing about the Imperial Soup list at 4th place is that it takes Conscripts (which dakka claim are unplayable) and rough riders. It also uses Valhallan doctrine.

Dark Eldar are one of the few factions to have legitimate variation in competitive lists in my opinion. Of course KotBH is there. As are Grotesques. Eldrad is probably taken again because of the huge points drop in CA.

I think the Ynarri list is interesting because it has no Dark Reapers or Shining Spears. It also has wind riders (CA drops again?). 6 flyers, half of which are -2 to hit is gross.

There's probably no point discussing the GSC list as the army has been overhauled but needless to say the codex has increased their strength and they currently sit in the top 10 of LVO.

As Audustum said above this Tau list is Riptides and Broadsides. Not surprising at all given the point cuts Tau enjoyed in CA.

Nick Nanavati Orks. Right so apart from Weirdboyz (he has 3), all of his HQ choices are index (MA Warboss, Big Mek and Boss on Bike). 3 x batt. Bad Moon Loota star with a few less bodies than max (22 instead of 25). He hasn't put relics/WL traits on his sheet but the MA Warboss is his WL. Then you have 114 boyz (3 x 10 and 3 x 28) and 74 grots (2 x 27 and 1 x 20). The only interesting unit to me here is the meganobz. Otherwise it's a green tide list with Loota star. I'd be interested to see how he gets around his need to mob up both boys and lootas on turn 1.

The Necron list blows my mind but I guess its down to some CA drops? Am I right in thinking Immortals became more attractive?

Currently in the top 51 (joint 50th place) we have 1 Necron champ (who I hope wins), 2 GSC players, 3 Tau players, 4 Ork players, 6 chaos players (combining CSM, TS, DG and daemons), 15 Aeldari players (Ynarri, DE, CW mostly the former 2), 20 Imperium players (including Knights, AM, Marines and Ad Mech).



   
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Audustum wrote:
2. Blood Angels (no Captain Slamguinus or Knight Castellan, instead Librarian/Lemartes/Dreadnought HQ's and a Crusader)
Death company / sanguinary guard, or just scouts and characters supported by other factions? I was helping a friend with some BA stuff recently and they have an impressive range of glass-ish cannon options.
   
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Necrons are certainly a bit out of left field, but it's also "just" day 1. Things will get a lot tougher from here on in.

I'm pretty sure Eldrad just dropped 15 points in CA, it's just that it wasn't needed but GW want their named characters to be auto-includes. (blech)

The orks work because they're so anti-meta right now I assume, alongside being pilotd by arguably the best 40k player out there. I still feel like that list is no longer viable when the beta bolter rule is in effect and the GSC codex comes out.

The emperors wrath artillery detachment is going to become a staple I think, it's just a good detchment and considering the wonky LoS rules that ITC uses it'll always guarantee some shots to be fired.

IK are still plentiful but I hope for a poorer showing here than previous big tournaments as I feel IK are somewhat of a self-fulfiling prophecy. You want that Castellan because everyone brings knights. A switch to a horde meta like Nick (and others) are doing basically invalidates or strongly discourages the Castellan. Fewer Castellans might mean a lot more Gallants though and those are still underosted by a fair bit as well IMO

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20 Imperium players


The usual suspects? As in do all lists contain a knight ?

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Compared to the last event which was only IG/BA/IK and aeldari, this seems like a good situation.


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The orks work because they're so anti-meta right now I assume, alongside being pilotd by arguably the best 40k player out there.


MADNESS!!!

Don't you know that there is no skill at all involved in this game?!?

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Not Online!!! wrote:
20 Imperium players


The usual suspects? As in do all lists contain a knight ?

Well I haven't been through every list but every one I did look at had at least one Knight yea.

There's much more Ad Mech representation than I remember previously - again CA is to thank here I think.

In terms of Ork players we have some real experts - Nick Nanavati, Steve Pampreen and Val Hefflefinger.
   
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Is that CSM list Mike Porter?
Hope it is! Flying the flag for GB! GO MIKE!
   
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 Nithaniel wrote:
Is that CSM list Mike Porter?
Hope it is! Flying the flag for GB! GO MIKE!

Yea it is buddy!
   
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PiñaColada wrote:
The best one I can see after a very quick search is Jesse Sell, with 2 wins and 1 loss at 136th place tied.

Thanks, I think he was the featured game last night. 2 wins is very nice.
   
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We even have mono SM and mono CSM lists still undefeated.
   
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Well, good players realized soon that DR and SP point increase is hurting the army to much. You just cant get enough infantry or knight kill power. Of course sadly that force you to get a bunch of flyers.
   
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Marin wrote:
Well, good players realized soon that DR and SP point increase is hurting the army to much. You just cant get enough infantry or knight kill power. Of course sadly that force you to get a bunch of flyers.

The current joint 8th player (with Nick Nanavati Orks) has 18 Shining Spears and 10 Dark Reapers. There are also multiple, high placed Ynarri lists running both units. I don't think it's "hurting" the army at all.
   
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I'd be real careful about making some sweeping generalised statements about the armies after day 1. A lot of people have gone 3-0 and the true tests start now.

On a personal level I'd be shocked if there's not at least one craftworlds/ynnari list in the top 8 when it's all said & done
   
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Any Harliquins in the elf lists?

What about dark elf wytch cults?
   
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Headlss wrote:
Any Harliquins in the elf lists?

Yes, quite a few.

What about dark elf wytch cults?

Didn't notice any at all unfortunately.
   
 
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