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My question here is around using the Fire and Fade stratagem alongside open-topped vehicles with a unit inside.

As an example:

A Starweaver with a Troupe inside packing fusion pistols.

The Starweaver moves up to something like 10" away from a unit, and fires its shuriken cannons into the unit.

It then used Fire and Fade to move 7", ending up 3" from the enemy unit.

The embarked Troupe then fire their fusion pistols into the enemy unit.


My question is, does this work? The stratagem says that the unit moves after it has fired, but does this have to be after the embarked unit has fired as well, or can I do as described above, shooting with the vehicle, moving into pistol range with FnF, then shooting with the passengers?

Thanks in advance guys.

Nothing in the open-topped rule forces you to shoot with the embarked unit right after the vehicle shoots. They can both be selected independently during the shooting phase.
So yes fire and fade on a starweaver before the embarked unit shoots is a valid move (and don't forget the weaver can advance and still shoot because of its assault weapons).

That was my understanding of the rule too. Thanks for your input.

Fire and Fade requires the 'Asuryani' keyword on the unit to be eligible.

Starweaver does not have 'Asuryani' keyword, and therefore your particular set up is not legal.

As far as the interaction goes - last I checked, there are no open-topped transports with Asuryani keyword, so I think the point is irrelevant.

 skchsan wrote:
Fire and Fade requires the 'Asuryani' keyword on the unit to be eligible.

Starweaver does not have 'Asuryani' keyword, and therefore your particular set up is not legal.

As far as the interaction goes - last I checked, there are no open-topped transports with Asuryani keyword, so I think the point is irrelevant.

Harlequins have their own Fire and Fade stratagem (like Webway strike) that can only be used on Harlequins units.

 Lord Perversor wrote:

 skchsan wrote:
Fire and Fade requires the 'Asuryani' keyword on the unit to be eligible.

Starweaver does not have 'Asuryani' keyword, and therefore your particular set up is not legal.

As far as the interaction goes - last I checked, there are no open-topped transports with Asuryani keyword, so I think the point is irrelevant.

Harlequins have their own Fire and Fade stratagem (like Webway strike) that can only be used on Harlequins units.

I see that now.