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Ok, so I'm out on a limb with this one, but hear me out:

--Premise-- You really like the aesthetics of Primaris Marines, but also want to use rules that give them a classic "Movie marine" feel
What do you think about using DW SS/SB Vet rules, but Intercessor models?
The SS is represented by the Mark-X armour and the Bolt rifle counts as a SB.

If the army list included 0 actual Primaris models and (aside from some VVs, Termies or Bikes) every Marine was SS/SB, how acceptable would you find this?

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Bonus Question: How would you feel about the opposite situation?
--Premise-- You like the rules for Intercessors, but cannot stand the aesthetic
So you use regular Marines (or DW, or GKs, whatever you do like) equipped with a better bolter (SB or just some barrel extension to a regular bolter) and a storm shield
The shield counts as the extra wound.

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I regard Primaris and normal Marines as functionally interchangeable so long as it's obvious what each model is given the size variance that already exists between older Marines (30k models, 3e-vintage plastics) and newer Marines (Deathwatch Veterans, 7e-vintage Assault/Devastator overhaul).

That said I might recommend swapping arms onto the models rather than saying "the Storm Shield is represented by the bigger armour" on the logic that a piece of wargear should obviously be a piece of wargear; shield and one-handed boltgun arms out of the Deathwatch Veterans kit fit quite well, and you could probably scrounge up storm bolters off Terminators or some such quite easily.

So long as you know what rules you're using for which unit, and you're consistent, go to town.

I'd suggest using ABRs for storm bolters tho. You're spraying bullets everywhere, the scope is kind of counterproductive for that.

I'd probably go with "no, not without some conversion effort". [I never actually refuse people saying "this unit of X counts as a unit Y". But I expect some conversion effort if a different unit is permanently meant to represent Y.]

If you gave them a storm shield and a storm bolter, that would be cool, but they'd need something to not look like normal intercessors and demarcate them instead as DW veterans with SS/SB

MMMmmmmmmm....I'd probably be a little skeptical of that. It's not quite "what if my ork shoota boyz were proxied as Dark Reapers, because I really like ork aesthetics but I want them to feel more awesome" but it's kind of close.

A bolter as a storm bolter maybe, a 3++ save "because his armor is just so cool and shiny"...

Yeah, I'm just spit-ballin' idea right now. 2 concepts in particular keep coming to my mind:
1) Primaris are really just true-scale marines and
2) DW StormVets seem to play like "movie marines" with their "armour" save never going below 3+ and SB + SIA being what an actually bolter seems to do in fluffy.

No real plans to actually do this, although I am building a DW army build around StormVets that has 1 unit of Intercessors.

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All matobes should have been raised to 2 wpunds with 8th but I am sure that bean counters demanded they be split in hopes of increased model sales.

I'm actually doing this right now in my games and personally I think it works fine and nobody has had an issue with it. Just make sure it's 100% consistent. In my case every single intercessor is a storm bolter storm shield veteran without exception. Is it lazy? Yeah it is. Is it reasonably lazy? Yeah I think it's rather unreasonable to demand someone go out and buy all the veteran bodies then buy all the bits for their storm shields and strom bolters to play a new build when they could save hundreds of dollars just by proxying intercessors for veterans which not a huge leap at all IMO.

 Galef wrote:

No real plans to actually do this, although I am building a DW army build around StormVets that has 1 unit of Intercessors.

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In this context, don't do counts as. Having a Primaris body count for two very different units is gonna cause confusion. Either bite the bullet and put the muppets on the board, or do something like add Custodes or Necromnuda shields to the Vet/Tercessors


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 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
I'm actually doing this right now in my games and personally I think it works fine and nobody has had an issue with it. Just make sure it's 100% consistent. In my case every single intercessor is a storm bolter storm shield veteran without exception. Is it lazy? Yeah it is. Is it reasonably lazy? Yeah I think it's rather unreasonable to demand someone go out and buy all the veteran bodies then buy all the bits for their storm shields and strom bolters to play a new build when they could save hundreds of dollars just by proxying intercessors for veterans which not a huge leap at all IMO.

This. Consistency is key.

Sterling191 wrote:

 Galef wrote:

No real plans to actually do this, although I am building a DW army build around StormVets that has 1 unit of Intercessors.

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In this context, don't do counts as. Having a Primaris body count for two very different units is gonna cause confusion. Either bite the bullet and put the muppets on the board, or do something like add Custodes or Necromnuda shields to the Vet/Tercessors


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 Tibs Ironblood wrote:
I'm actually doing this right now in my games and personally I think it works fine and nobody has had an issue with it. Just make sure it's 100% consistent. In my case every single intercessor is a storm bolter storm shield veteran without exception. Is it lazy? Yeah it is. Is it reasonably lazy? Yeah I think it's rather unreasonable to demand someone go out and buy all the veteran bodies then buy all the bits for their storm shields and strom bolters to play a new build when they could save hundreds of dollars just by proxying intercessors for veterans which not a huge leap at all IMO.

This. Consistency is key.

Agreed. This would be one or the other (either 100% Intercessors or 100% StromVets), never both in the same game.

To be fair on the cost, though, I am using GKs and Stormcast Eternals for my StormVets. Every GK comes with a SB and the kit has extra power packs (just the thingies off the Inceptor packs). Liberators all have shields and hammers. Both kits really complement each other for making StormVets and all it takes is some simple planning to get a consistent look.

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Personally I don't care to much about models matching whats on the table as long as the base size is close and you have markers on it. You want to use a carnifex as Gman go for it. Need more drop pods? Just get some pop bottles ect.

Proxies are a no go. Conversions are on a case by case basis.

40k is a visual game. I certainly wouldn't impose counts as on my opponent even in a friendly setting.

If the conversion is some fantastic effort then it can be discussed prior to a game.

On the whole, the idea is fine, though I'd like to see stuff done that makes them different from basic intercessors (as the others have said).

If you could get them, Space Marine Heros might also be a good base to work from. They have the old marine look, but are better scaled.

eh, I mean, you CAN do this. If you're doing it temporarily, sure, but modelling is part of the hobby. It'd be annoying to me if you didnt put SOME effort into it. Buy some shield bits or something at least.

It's only really troubling because those intercessor models--as is--already have a datasheet in the game.