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So,

Played a game this weekend, my Custodes vs. her Knights+. She had a Eversor, which long story short she attempted to charge from about 15". I stated no, you can only charge from 12". She stated the 3d6 charge rule equated to distance. I let her do it because I couldn't find where it had been resolved in a FAQ, and I didn't want to waste the time looking. All I had was the BRB stating Any unit within 12" may charge. Did this get faq'd somewhere either yea or nea?

Thanks

You can only declare a charge at a unit up to 12" away. The Eversor does not override this rule. Rolling 3D6 just gives them massively increased odds of making a long charge, not allowing them to declare a charge on a target 15" away.

The only unit I know of that can declare a charge from more than 12" away is howling banshee's that have advanced. This is because they have a special rule that lets them do so.

Frenzon - "When making a charge roll for this model, roll 3D6 rather than 2D6. In addition..."

Frenzon lets you roll another die. It doesn't give you permission to declare charges against targets more than 12" away.


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 Eihnlazer wrote:
The only unit I know of that can declare a charge from more than 12" away is howling banshee's that have advanced. This is because they have a special rule that lets them do so.

Harlequins have a similar ability. Several units in other armies do as well. It's uncommon, but not unique.

RAW, no. HIWPI, I'd let her try her charge. She'd need to roll significantly above average to make it, so 75-80% of the time it's just gonna be free Overwatch for me.

I really appreciate all the confirmation that I was right. There is no real way to argue with the "GW never clarified..." crowd. They are going to misplay and mis-interpret every advantage they can.

The Eversor does not have a rule that allows him to extend the range he can declare charges for (as Howling Banshees do, for example).

On a smaller scale, this is true for all units. They can only declare charges within 12”, so a charge roll of 11” would normally succeed.

A charge roll of 12” (e.g. a double six) would be sufficient to succeed on a charge against a unit that was just within 13” at the start, but you wouldn’t be allowed to declare a charge at that unit.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I really appreciate all the confirmation that I was right. There is no real way to argue with the "GW never clarified..." crowd. They are going to misplay and mis-interpret every advantage they can.

It’s not in any way unclear, unless you attempt to misread it for advantage, which your opponent did. It doesn’t need an FAQ because there’s nothing to clarify. No permission to exceed 12” Charge declaration distance is given, unlike Howling Banshees, so there is no such permission.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
I really appreciate all the confirmation that I was right. There is no real way to argue with the "GW never clarified..." crowd. They are going to misplay and mis-interpret every advantage they can.

It’s not in any way unclear, unless you attempt to misread it for advantage, which your opponent did. It doesn’t need an FAQ because there’s nothing to clarify. No permission to exceed 12” Charge declaration distance is given, unlike Howling Banshees, so there is no such permission.

Didn't we just have a FAQ explain that infact, yes, your models DO need to be ON THE BOARD to be in play.

Sure? How does that apply to this conversation though?

 flandarz wrote:
Sure? How does that apply to this conversation though?

People mis-interpret literally everything.

I think the mistake with Frenzon is a lot more reasonable, if you don't know the rules specifically state you can't declare outside of 12" and just assume 12" is the range people use because you only charge 2d6 normally it makes sense.

You need to reread the rules. It literally says you can only declare a charge against units within 12".

Same deal with Howling Banshees. They can move up to 15" but can still only declare a charge against units within 12"

You know this, and have been told in multiple threads, but Howling Banshees can declare charges up to 15”. They have a rule expressly allowing it. That you think the grammar is incorrect and are claiming some linguistic wriggle room is irrelevant... the rest of the world understands what it means, but repeated posting amplifies the incorrect voice in this occasion. Doesn’t make you right. Don’t repeat your wrong hot takes please, it just dilutes the utility of this forum. Leave it to your sig if you must.

TL;DR the Eversor can declare up to the regular 12” (but has a bette chance of making it); Banshees can declare up to 15” due to a special rule.