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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker





Has anyone used firecrackers to make damage to buildings?
   
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Misfittoy wrote:
Has anyone used firecrackers to make damage to buildings?


No?
Why would you do that?
Don't play with fireworks, i have seen enough gak.

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Closest I got was this dumb but fun challenge.
The buildings that we made were super simple but it would've looked amazing with properly crafted scale models rather than cardboard boxes with printed paper skins. Time and budget wouldn't allow.

[youtube] https://youtu.be/L1rkNq17kBg[/youtube]
Explosions from 6.30
https://youtu.be/y7ljW1iMm-Y

Realistically there's just not enough control and the scaledamage would take so much trial and error that it's not worth considering what you're proposing.

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Not to mention stupidly dangerous and blatantly STUPID. :\
   
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Not recently, but a LONG time a go we did blow up model tanks and airplanes with fire crackers. Problem with doing it to make scale damage is that model buildings are not generally constructed the way real buildings are, so the explosive force will not damage them the correct way.

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Junior Officer with Laspistol





London, Ontario

Before I respond, I assume you are an ADULT and responsible for your own lost fingers / hands / eyeballs.

If you are NOT, do not play with fireworks period. They’re dangerous.

If you are an adult, give’er a try! I’m thinking cherry bomb type fireworks, right?

I’d expect if you put it within any model-sized building, the explosion will either do nothing, or blow it clean apart. So I’d try taping the cherry-bombs to the outside of the building (duct tape, probably) like a meltabomb clamped to the side of a building.

You’re localizing the force, just like a tired shell would. You’re creating inward blast damage, and you should get enough counter-blast from the tape to ensure at least some force penetrates the wall.

Try it out on a plain cardboard box first. No sense building something nice that gets blown fully apart or catches fire or something.

As an ADULT you’re responsible for your actions, so if it’s fun and nobody (but you?) gets hurt, what’s the harm in trying?
   
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Near Jupiter.

A safer way would be to look in to paints that are designed to chip away to give a realistic 3d chipping "ware" effect. Also perhaps you can try randomly breaking sections off the buildings depending how hard the material is.

I don't think using fireworks is a good way of doing it and it is VERY DANGEROUS also.

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Let me start off by saying that yes I am an adult and would accept any damages that would occur from any attempt. Secondly, I would like to say thank you for those that gave advice from prior experience. I was looking at possibly doing this to either a paper mache building or balsa wood building. I was thinking of either a cherry bomb or a black cat, I had seen an article talking about an individual from Japan that attempted it with a gundam model. I was also thinking that the damage result may not be equivalent since it is a model. If anyone has a method that they use to help show damage on buildings outside of paint I would be eager to hear what they do. I have a friend that recommends just cutting off pieces but was looking for something that would look more like a result from bombs or missiles.
   
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Douglas Bader






Darwinian answer: yes, please go play with explosives, it's a great idea.

Serious answer: it's a ing stupid idea. You're going to get something that looks like exactly what it is: blowing flimsy plastic to splinters, and you're going to throw away your time and money to do it. The scale and toughness of the materials are completely wrong for this to look like anything but . And by the time you figure out a way to scale everything properly, shape the blast in a realistic way, etc, you've spent way more time and money than it would take to do it the conventional way. And that's the best case scenario, where you only waste your time and money on something stupid and don't hurt anyone. So instead of attempting to earn a Darwin award try learning how to sculpt more realistic damage.

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Stupid and *fun*. And hobbies are supposed to be fun.

No slight was intended about the adult thing. If you were younger (no way to tell on the internet, right?) I couldn’t recommend something “dangerous” but you’re an adult so the only real risk is wasting an afternoon on the attempt.

What would you be out? $5 in materials, maybe? Some time? You could make one wall, try it out. Take some pictures, post it up success or failure! Getting cherry bombs takes effort in Canada... but you’re in the land of the free!

I selfishly encourage you to try it, and post the pics of the results. Blowing stuff up is fun, and I’d look at the post just to see it. And if it doesn’t work, you can always try the “boring” / likely to succeed way of carving / sculpting the damage.

So listen to the devil on your shoulder and blast away! Just remember to take before and after photos.
   
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 greatbigtree wrote:
but you’re an adult so the only real risk is wasting an afternoon on the attempt


Interesting, I didn't realize that adulthood granted resistance to explosive damage.

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So, I assume you're talking about this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-W6OF1d6pw

Back when I was more of a gunpla fan, it did the rounds online every once in a while.

First up, some thoughts: This is a HG 1/144 GM - it's a small cheap kit, of a gundam most fans will have built some variation of at some point. This video was filmed in Japan, where you can pick up a GM of some kind for like a few hundred yen literally anywhere.

The corny 70s music should give away, that this is not in fact a very serious video.

While that shot at the end of the exploded gundam does look kind of cool - lots of carbon streaks, the covers at the front of the feet are clearly blown away, exposing some inner details, and there are pock-marks here and there, you should also pay attention to how the arms and shoulders above the hands are almost completely unscathed - while the shield, which had a fair few firecrackers strapped to it, is seemingly lost altogether. "controlled explosion" is a bit of an oxymoron at the best of times, and firecrackers are no exception to this. You will almost certainly not achieve exactly what you have in mind. I think these guys wanted some cool damage on the shield, and instead lost it altogether. While the end result here is arguably surprisingly good, it's probably also not completely what the guys doing it planned.

Gunpla comes in pre-coloured plastics. The more contemporary kits sometimes don't require any paint at all. Warhammer does not, so you have to weigh up whether you want to risk exploding your mini before painting it, and lose all those cool burn marks or go to the effort of painting it, then explode it and guarantee you will have to do touch ups to cover exposed plastic after.
Additionally, particularly in the GM's case, there aren't a lot of details, beyond flat armor panels. Warhammer scenery has a lot more detail, and you stand to not only obliterate it, but perhaps ruin something that would otherwise give a kit a lot of character.

Additionally, while glimpsing that GM at the end of the video does look kind of impressive, it looks like a lot of the plastic has been burnt, by the bubbly, porous appearance. (not only is this dangerous to your health, and the surrounding environment, like a number of other posters have said please be careful and considerate) I think this may not translate so well to warhammer, where steel and stone are very much part of the terrain's aesthetic. Bulbous heat welts are not going to look like anything any of us recognize as battle damage, unless perhaps from a particularly exciting xenos weapon.

I won't say "don't do this", but I advise you to be cautious. I'll admit being a little curious about how it might turn out, but I would never do it myself. Not only could you hurt yourself, or something else, a warhammer terrain kit already has battle damage, and you could very easily just wreck an expensive model.

Personally, I prefer to be cautious when modelling damage. A few drill bits, and a bit of knife work goes a long way, and then sponging and washing on various browns, greys and blacks has worked quite well for me in the past. You can always paint over, but you can't cut away less

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London, Ontario

 Peregrine wrote:
 greatbigtree wrote:
but you’re an adult so the only real risk is wasting an afternoon on the attempt


Interesting, I didn't realize that adulthood granted resistance to explosive damage.


It doesn’t, but consenting adults and all that. Take the (small) risk, have some fun, don’t lose a finger... and if you do you’ve always got 9 more.
   
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Is this a Doomthumbs thread in disguise? Got tired of painting you models with berries OP?


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Canterbury

..yyeah.

don't do this.

... 2019 eh ?

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