Tide of traitors - can I use auspex scan against them??

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**Rogerio134134**

Had this come up last night and wasn't sure because the cultists were already on the table but I do recall tabletop tactics doing it in a bat rep recently??

**Not Online!!!**

can you give me the excact rule?

**Stux**

Tide of Traitors says to remove the unit and then set them up.

Auspex scan says you can use it when you set up a unit as reinforcements. So it'll come down to whether we are treating the unit as reinforcements.

The last big FAQ included this:

Q: What rules apply to units that are removed from the battlefield after deployment (via abilities, Stratagems or psychic
powers), and are then set back up again on the battlefield?
A: If a rule or ability causes a unit to be removed from the battlefield and subsequently set back up, the
following rules apply to that unit:
1. Any rules that are triggered by or apply to units that are ‘set up on the battlefield as reinforcements’ are also
triggered by and apply to that unit when it is set up on the battlefield.
...

So putting that all together you absolutely can use Auspex Scan in this scenario.

**JohnnyHell**

Yes, you can.

**Rogerio134134**

Cheers guys, damn my killteam with 5 intercessors and 5 aggressors would have loved to auxpex scan those 20 cultists haha

**p5freak**

Why is it so hard to read FAQs ??

(RE)SETTING UP MODELS
There are several abilities, Stratagems and psychic powers that let players remove a unit from the battlefield and then
set it back up in a different location, but these rules are causing some confusion. The confusion is partly because it is
not clear whether or not any effects that applied to the unit before it is removed from the battlefield continue to apply
when it is set back up, and also because the wording of this rule is sometimes written as these units being set up ‘as if
they were reinforcements’, even though they are technically on the battlefield already.
The intent of the ‘as if they were reinforcements’ wording was to try and make it clear that the units had counted as
moving for the purposes of moving and firing Heavy weapons, and that they can’t move further again this turn (other
than to charge, pile in or consolidate) – after all, these units have potentially been displaced across the entire length of
the battlefield already. This wording was also used to try and make it clear that such units would trigger other abilities
or Stratagems, such as Auspex Scans and Early Warning Overrides, that are used when a unit is set up on the battlefield
as reinforcements – our feeling was that it shouldn’t make a difference as to the whether a unit teleported onto the
battlefield from an orbiting spacecraft or from over the next hill.

It specifically says auspex scan.

**Kriswall**

p5freak wrote:
Why is it so hard to read FAQs ??

(RE)SETTING UP MODELS
There are several abilities, Stratagems and psychic powers that let players remove a unit from the battlefield and then
set it back up in a different location, but these rules are causing some confusion. The confusion is partly because it is
not clear whether or not any effects that applied to the unit before it is removed from the battlefield continue to apply
when it is set back up, and also because the wording of this rule is sometimes written as these units being set up ‘as if
they were reinforcements’, even though they are technically on the battlefield already.
The intent of the ‘as if they were reinforcements’ wording was to try and make it clear that the units had counted as
moving for the purposes of moving and firing Heavy weapons, and that they can’t move further again this turn (other
than to charge, pile in or consolidate) – after all, these units have potentially been displaced across the entire length of
the battlefield already. This wording was also used to try and make it clear that such units would trigger other abilities
or Stratagems, such as Auspex Scans and Early Warning Overrides, that are used when a unit is set up on the battlefield
as reinforcements – our feeling was that it shouldn’t make a difference as to the whether a unit teleported onto the
battlefield from an orbiting spacecraft or from over the next hill.

It specifically says auspex scan.

In fairness, a lot of players are fairly casual and the rules are pretty complex and spread over multiple sources. There really should be only a single FAQ/Errata document that covers all legal publications. Besides, this forum is specifically for asking rules questions. If you have nothing positive to contribute to the discussion, maybe just don't contribute? If these sorts of questions are so burdensome, just don't respond?