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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/20 08:33:22
Subject: Bike Squads: Fielding them in 8th Edition with the new Codex.
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Dakka Veteran
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Hey mates. Naturally being the White Scars, we will be taking Bike Units in our army and with the release of the new Codex, I have basically run down a few things I have noticed other White Scars players will be doing for their Biker units when it comes to their Sergeant, Special Weapon Options, and the Attack Bike option. Way I see it:
* Sgt: With the new changes in CC, along with the White Scars Devastating Charge, many have expressed desire to field their Sgts w/a TH or a PF for the extra damage potential in CC. Personally, I like the Power Axe as it is a cheap weapon that can dish out a ton of damage still, even more so with the Devestating Charge.
* Special Weapons: Plasma remains a popular option for obvious reasons. However, I have heard many people expressing a desire to run a Tri-Melta Bike Squad considering all the Anti-Infantry Dakka we put out already with the Bikes themselves. Grav Guns I'm not sure about atm, but I can see the potential with all the Space Marine armies that will be popping up atm.
* Bikers: Chainswords are the obvious choice for obvious reasons lol. BPs are solid but with our CC potential a Chainsword is the far better option and far more Mongolian.
* Attack Bike: Multi-Melta is a popular choice atm with the point decrease and the fact we can hide one in our Bike Squads without being targetted. Add it with 2x Melta Guns for the Tri-Melta build and you have a nasty unit that can dish out a ton of Dakka on top of providing much needed Anti-Tank. Hvy. Bolters are a decent option still but only for their added Dakka and being cheaper.
Those are my thoughts but feel free to add your thoughts on the Bike Squad and how you plan on fielding yours going forward.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/08/20 08:33:42
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/20 12:43:42
Subject: Re:Bike Squads: Fielding them in 8th Edition with the new Codex.
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
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I'm not sold on melta. You have to get within 6" of whatever you want to shoot to get the melta bonus, fully exposing them to a counterstrike. Besides that, melta is EXPENSIVE. Now I must say that I don't have any practical experience with bikers but from reading and theorycrafting I'd say keep them as cheap as possible with a chainsword and the default double bolter on the bike. Give a Lightning Claw to the sarge (can he also take a combibolter in his other hand?) to make maximum use of the -3 AP D2 White Scars get from T3 and call it a day.
Harass chaff T1-2, make sure you survive and then it's SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE from T3 onwards. An additional advantage of keeping it cheap in this case is that you'll paint less of a SHOOT ME target on yourself increasing the chances you'll survive till T3+.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/08/20 12:44:27
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/20 12:47:18
Subject: Bike Squads: Fielding them in 8th Edition with the new Codex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Don’t discount the humble power maul. Cheap as they come S6+ Ap2 D2 for WS. Can even do them up as lances if you’re keen on something other than the smash smash.
I do think the LC is a big winner against everything under T8 though, especially after the points drop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/20 13:01:19
Subject: Bike Squads: Fielding them in 8th Edition with the new Codex.
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Preacher of the Emperor
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I believe one of the WS strats allows you to shoots heavies without penalty. That plus the CT has me thinking about triple MM attack bikes, or maybe HF/AC Landspeeders.
Adding melee to melta bike squads is an interesting option... I was going to run 2x3 melta bikers with a captain between them, probably with THSS to finish whatever the meltas start.
I'm bummed there aren't vets or other HQs on bikes... I might run index bikers to get those even though the new rules won't carry over. Maybe big units with chainswords are just as good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/08/21 00:48:47
Subject: Bike Squads: Fielding them in 8th Edition with the new Codex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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WS has a strat that lets you treat heavy/rapid fire weapons as though they were Assault if you Advanced. Their CT lets BIKER models ignore the to-hit penalties for firing Heavy and Assault weapons while moving.
Not sure what to to for a WS list though. My current list is really based around a couple of squads of Aggressors and they don't mesh into a WS list nearly as well as they do into a UM list.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/08/21 01:38:07
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