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Obviously, this new thing is going to be big and involve most(if not all) factions in the game. T'au have no innate psychic powers, so could this be an opportunity to expand on the idea of T'au auxiliaries and give them something to do in the psychic phase?

I like the idea of the T'au Empire actually feeling like an empire, so I think it would be pretty cool to see a new auxiliary race for them. If they don't get new allies how do you think the T'au will fit into this Psychic Awakening?

I presume what you're looking for here is just some wild speculation, because there's really no way for us to answer this question with any degree of certainty.

That said, the possibilities as I see them are as follows:

Psychic Kroot.

Psychic Gue'Vesa.

Awakened psychic T'au.

 Ginjitzu wrote:
I presume what you're looking for here is just some wild speculation, because there's really no way for us to answer this question with any degree of certainty.

That said, the possibilities as I see them are as follows:

Psychic Kroot.

Psychic Gue'Vesa.

Awakened psychic T'au.

This is definitely a wild speculation thread.

 Ginjitzu wrote:
I presume what you're looking for here is just some wild speculation, because there's really no way for us to answer this question with any degree of certainty.

That said, the possibilities as I see them are as follows:

Psychic Kroot.

Psychic Gue'Vesa.

Awakened psychic T'au.

There's also actual psyker aliens that are allied to the Tau.

I have always wanted the Stingwing (is that the old name?) to turn more into an insect race like bees or whatever, and therefore have a "Queen" type who has psychic powers. Probably buffing etc, but the unit needs some love (I know, GW so no miniature no decent rules...)

I don't think it's nearly as psychic as people believe right now. The 'psychic' awakening seems to be a plot point of some faction/being/group.

It's not refering to every faction getting psychic stuff. It's far more likely to introduce various units (confirmed) that are miscellaneous and cp formations.

IMO Tau should stay psyker-free, that's their thing. They could however develop systems to counter psykers, like those spiders necron have.

Maybe they will be able to scan the brainwaves of everyone on the battlefield and launch a missile at anyone using a psychic power. I think I'd like that better.

Hoping for Tau auxiliaries and new model or two.
Or Psychicaly awakened ethreals.

Realistically, probably going to be some sort of gimmicky detachment from the campaign book.

Maybe tau will get no powers at all. Dwarfs didn't really have spells in Fantasy warhammer, they just had lots of defense.

They've said every faction will get some new rules. They might not all get new models (I'd bank on that in fact).

I also don't think everyone is getting something psychic related. It's just the name of the campaign. The event that kicks things off will be to do with something psychic, but I'm not convinced that will directly relate to the rules everyone gets.

So that said, I don't think Tau will get Auxiliary units.

Personally, I think we’re more likely to find out Ethereals have been covertly using psychic powers (for their Invoke the Elements ability) and now have overt abilities instead of seeing auxiliaries with psychic abilities.

Yeah as soon as they announced it was the new campaign. I set my sights low. We are going to get a specialist detachment and thats it.

balmong7 wrote:
Yeah as soon as they announced it was the new campaign. I set my sights low. We are going to get a specialist detachment and thats it.

I think thats going to be the order of the day for everyone though, not just tau. But some will get new kits also which is nice.

 Argive wrote:

balmong7 wrote:
Yeah as soon as they announced it was the new campaign. I set my sights low. We are going to get a specialist detachment and thats it.

I think thats going to be the order of the day for everyone though, not just tau. But some will get new kits also which is nice.

My guess it's that's Imperial, Chais and Eldar will get new kits, everyone else will get rules, but nothing tangible.

I imagine tau and necron will get some sort of techno-magiffuns that will let them deny the witch.

Dark Eldar and Necron were on the list too so perhaps they'll just come up with ways to counter psykers instead of having some of their own.

They'll get tinfoil hats!

 Shadenuat wrote:
IMO Tau should stay psyker-free, that's their thing. They could however develop systems to counter psykers, like those spiders necron have.

Well except for all the psychic allies they have in the lore - plenty of those.

Define "plenty". Are we talking Imperium amounts of Psykers, where they can afford to kill tens of thousands a day, with plenty to spare? Or we talking a few hundred or thousand Psychically Attuned individuals across the entire species, most of whom probably never had the training to do more than move a book from one table to another? In the latter case, I can see why they wouldn't be a unit in 40k, they're just too rare to represent as anything other than maybe a named character.

Myself, I think Tau are in a good place without Psykers. Something like that DtW spider would be neat, or a named Psyker, but otherwise? It ain't like they're really hurting without any.

 flandarz wrote:
Define "plenty". Are we talking Imperium amounts of Psykers, where they can afford to kill tens of thousands a day, with plenty to spare? Or we talking a few hundred or thousand Psychically Attuned individuals across the entire species, most of whom probably never had the training to do more than move a book from one table to another? In the latter case, I can see why they wouldn't be a unit in 40k, they're just too rare to represent as anything other than maybe a named character.

Myself, I think Tau are in a good place without Psykers. Something like that DtW spider would be neat, or a named Psyker, but otherwise? It ain't like they're really hurting without any.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nicassar -

Nicassar ships known as Dhows are small, maneuverable, yet elegant yachts propelled by the psychic powers of the captain

Small being about the size of a Imperial Navy destroyer

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Nagi - Mind controlling worms

and of course Humans who have seen the light and joned the Empire

The Imperium is so much larger than the Tau - so these races are signifcant.

Two issues with the Nicassar. Firstly: the Tau are explicitly trying to keep the Imperium from finding out about them. Secondly: they are stated to be "unsuited for ground combat", making their use in... well, ground combat not the best idea, even if you weren't trying to keep them a secret.

The Nagi seem like less of an issue in those regards, but I feel like it'd be hard to maintain the "we're the good guys" image when you're using mind-controlling worms in combat.

As for the humans who have joined, I would highly doubt many of them have enough psychic potential to use it in combat.

As an example, let's use juggling. Let's say maybe 1 in 1000 people know how to juggle, which is probably highballing the number immensely. Then let's say maybe 1 in every 1000 of those have the physical fitness, mental flexibility, and hand-eye coordination to be trained as "combat jugglers." To be trained as a combat juggler, your training consists of being shot at while juggling 10 bombs which will detonate and kill you if you drop them, so let's give a conservative 50% survival rate to that training. In our example, we have 1 in every 2 million people who survive the training and become "combat jugglers." There are 7.7 billion people on Earth, so that would mean a total of 3,850 Combat Jugglers worldwide.

That's what I meant when I said "they're just too rare". Just seems like the Tau would have better uses for their relatively few Psykers than combat, like how they use the Nicassar. And the times when they would use them in combat would have to be dire situations for them to be able to reconcile the chance of that Psyker messing up and wiping out a bunch of their buddies.

Counterpoint:

You say you'd only see them in dire situations. I see Guilliman on every battlefield.

To be fair, do you really think anyone could stop G-Man from going to a fight if he wanted to?

But that's besides the point. G-Man is trained for combat. From what I've seen, the Tau Psykers are not. And training a Psyker for combat is incredibly fatal. So, what are the chances that the relative handful of Psykers who could be trained for combat would actually be trained, instead of utilized in less... risky ways?


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That also kinda feeds into my original thing of: "maybe a Psyker Named Character", since you compared them to G-Man.

I'd be down with a named character.

The other issue with Tau Psykers though is they aren't supposed to be even slightly aware chaos exists. At least outside of the Ethereal caste. So that would need addressing.

Kroot Shamans are psykers.
They'd be a great Kroot HQ meaning then folks could run pure Kroot.

I'd be cool with some kinda Psyker unit that encourages new styles of play out of Tau. They seem a little one-dimensional right now.

I do not want any T'au to have psychic powers. It goes against their narrative way too much. They either need any ally or something that has nothing to do with psychic powers, in my opinion.

 Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
I do not want any T'au to have psychic powers. It goes against their narrative way too much. They either need any ally or something that has nothing to do with psychic powers, in my opinion.

Ha that won't stop GW. Their narrative used to include not using giant mechs because they didn't fit their military philosophy and were a waste of resources. Look how that turned out.

pm713 wrote:

 Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
I do not want any T'au to have psychic powers. It goes against their narrative way too much. They either need any ally or something that has nothing to do with psychic powers, in my opinion.

Ha that won't stop GW. Their narrative used to include not using giant mechs because they didn't fit their military philosophy and were a waste of resources. Look how that turned out.

None of the Tau battlesuits reach the Warhound in height, while at the same time still being agile and useful enough to ensure that they can't just done in like they destroyed them.