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^Maybe the whole of dakka is slightly reeling from KS burnout? Plus, aren't all of our UK friends asleep, that could have something to do with it. Maybe even a nice classic case of bystander apathy

Sounds like it's a campaign/league expansion that's an extension of the galactic tour series. So crazy murder planets to make your future/space murderball game have an even higher (and crowd pleasing) mortality rate. The drake thing is perhaps an MVP, big, but not necessarily a giant from the way it's worded.

Ahem..


Played as a linked campaign, teams will visit a series of unique locations on a Galaxy Map (included in the Boxed Set!) before engaging the opposition in the Galaxy's Greatest Sport.


There are more areas to explore besides these and we will also produce a set of MVPs for some of the locations. To whet your appetite, here’s the first:

Blitz the Great Drake!


Also sounds like another frenzy booster potentially, and an add-on for anyone below that level.

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Each location introduces new rules and abilities – Magmarax for example is a lava planet where teams can be expected to play around volcanic eruptions and intense heat, whilst Andromeda is a planet shrouded in night time, where one can never really be sure of what’s hiding in the dark…


I like my idea better - a gametype with a neutral giant - a mechanical tyrannosaurus - with a strike plate in its mouth. The ones Mantic is using as a selling point sound too boringly random to me, and Andromeda is just stupid for a spectator sport.

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California the Southern

Mechanical dinosaurs always get a free pass in my book.

Odd thing is, I don't remember even seeing the update about the Sphyr and that new MVP in my email. Odd.

If he's available expansion only that's a shame for me then, as I'm probably not going to go in for that- I still don't even know if I can talk any family into playing!

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

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The far north

Got in for $1 pledge, after some quick calculations it seems that buying Dreadball stuff through the DBX kickstarter is cheap even with $10 shipping to Sweden, especially if you buy multiple items. Feels a bit odd though.

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The Fyrit looks to me a like mutant flying squirrel.

And yeah, I'd love to get a mechanical dinosaur into this thing. I'm from the Saturday morning creature double feature generation. Many happy memories of Mechagodzilla and King Caesar.

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 Vermonter wrote:
And yeah, I'd love to get a mechanical dinosaur into this thing.

Feel free to mention it in the comments. Hell, it wouldn't be hard to make the mouth-mounted strike plate look like a mouth-mounted plasma cannon, if you do want to go for the Godzilla theme.

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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Adelaide, Australia

Here we go, knocked over the cash and backer stretches in one go.

Next up, a cheerleader with turn counter for the backer stretch. For cash stretch, Sephalin Sphyr MVP and... a Kraww rebs MVP

Edit: They really need to update the front page graphics if they want people new to the page to drop money on Frenzy, because it's missing a lot of the value added in the last few days

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There's something being added to Rage! And it's something I actually want!

...to cross a Sephalin is to invite a swift death, crushed by their tentacles or devoured by their vicious secondary maw.

Must... not... make... obscene joke!

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Why does an octopus have boobies?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why does an octopus have boobies?


And the Mierce KS topic has "why does a snake have boobies?" going on....

....I think the answer is "the human race is obsessed with boobies", no?

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 Baragash wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why does an octopus have boobies?


And the Mierce KS topic has "why does a snake have boobies?" going on....

....I think the answer is "the human race is obsessed with boobies", no?


Because people were asking for a female Teraton, not realizing there was already a female model, it just didn't have "mammary glands" as it wasn't a mammal.

I think the better answer is people are idiots
   
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Adelaide, Australia

 Baragash wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why does an octopus have boobies?


And the Mierce KS topic has "why does a snake have boobies?" going on....

....I think the answer is "the human race is obsessed with boobies", no?


Having just been to a burlesque show at the Adelaide Fringe Festival tonight, I can safely confirm this

   
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Update #28 Mar 7 2014
I CHALLENGE YOU!
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It’s Day 4 of the Frenzy Frenzy and as we approach the penultimate weekend, it’s always a good time to reflect.


In the last 7 days we’ve added a free 8 Player team of Mechanites, a free 8 player team of Plague Mutants and a free Season 5 team of your choice into Rampage.

Then we unlocked a Season 5 team a day, meaning that Frenzy got 16 Brokkr Players, 16 Sphyr, 16 Rebs and 16 translucent blue plastic Crystallans at no extra cost.

All-in-all that saw the totals rising, meaning we locked in some seriously cool MVPs – free in Rampage and up – as well as the Iron Ancestor Giant.

But we don’t want to stop there – it’s time to get your Frenzy on!

UNLOCKED – Galactic Tour Series: DreadBall Challenge Cup
Designed for both Original DreadBall and DreadBall Xtreme, the DreadBall Challenge Cup is a whole new way of playing leagues in DreadBall!

For the first time, you’ll be able to travel the stars and play games of DreadBall as part of a linked campaign. Teams will visit a series of unique locations across this region of space before engaging the opposition in the Galaxy's Greatest Sport – win and you claim the territory.


Corporation-Designated Hazard System - work in progress

The beauty of this set is that each location introduces new rules and abilities – Magmarax for example is a lava planet where teams can be expected to play around volcanic eruptions and intense heat, whilst Andromeda is a planet shrouded in night time, where one can never really be sure of what’s hiding in the dark…

In a similar fashion to the Azure Forest pack, this set takes DreadBall in all kinds of fun directions – whether it’s automated robot attacks in the Llo desert to radiation pulses that boost your players abilities on Visvera (or cripple them!)

As well as a Rulebook, a printed Hazard System Map, cards, and counters, the set also comes with four incredible MVPs (which are also available individually if you want them) – arguably the most exciting yet.

Let’s meet them…

Blitz, The Great Drake!


A brutal, tyrannical soldier of the underground circuit, Blitz is well-known both for his larger-than-life presence in the arena and for his mercurial rage. He was the first of the Fyrit to take part in DreadBall, selling his talents to the highest bidder in exchange for huge quantities of his home world’s golden currency.

Eko’o


Although the Reiker Corporation took great pains to only monitor Andromeda from afar, other corporations were not so patient. When a Spiczak survey craft entered the lower atmosphere it was attacked by a flight of Yarasa hunters. They were fought off by security troopers, and one of them – Eko’o – was taken as a prize.

Hexan, The Witch of Visvera


Visvera is a planet orbiting a dying star, blasted by radiation. The effects of the radiation is yet unknown by scientists, though reports from the planet suggest mutations, instant death – as well as the appearance of seemingly super-charged individuals – are rife. What effects do you think the radiation should offer? Let us know in the comments.

Alo-Khan


Alo-Khan can be found in New Haven where, stationed in the great desert of Llo, is the largest robot graveyard in the galaxy. The massive, rusted forms of bulk haulers line up against containers full of broken mechs and irreparable weapons systems, all baking under the heat of the twin suns. Xotek Industries, primary license-holders and founders of New Haven, makes serious credits here. Their primary business is in repurposing wrecked units, either salvaging their parts and melting down the rest or refitting them for new purposes. The more paranoid elements of the subnet are convinced that Xotek is building an army of weapons-enabled, cybernetic supersoldiers deep underground, but it’s much more likely that they’ve just found a very profitable niche. The organisers of the Challenge Cup care little for rumours, and are only interested in the brutal conditions and the possibility that some of the rusting hulks might react mid-game…

Sound cool? Well, the DreadBall Challenge Cup is now available to add-on to your pledge. That’s right, there’s no stretch goal.


Not only that – it is included at no extra cost in Frenzy!

Frenzy now has now broken $375 at Kickstarter prices (over $700 at retail!!!), and we’ve still got all of next week to go – and plenty of free stuff to throw in!!

However – Frenzy will not be around much longer.

You’ve got until midnight (GMT) Sunday 9th March to get yours before the Limited Edition 1 Frenzy is closed.


After this weekend, there will be no more of the Limited Edition 1 Frenzy set – whether we sell out or not, they will be all gone!

Thanks for reading - and please don't miss out on a Frenzy pledge.

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Pious Warrior Priest




UK

Very cool update, love the idea of a linked campaign of games going from planet to planet with different rules on each.

Frenzy now has over $800 retail value, for anyone wondering if it's worth a shot.

With another 4 teams and more MVPs to come, I think it's safe to say that Frenzy will be over $1000 retail value before this finishes.

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Its definitely good for someone who's got the interest and bank to back it up. The campaign is neat and I'm glad it exists, but I won't likely get to play often enough to need it personally. As nice as frenzy will be, rampage looks to be really solid on its own.

If I step back and ask... what do I need to play dbx? The answer is the base game and potentially one other team if the original two don't strike my fancy. Other players can use the other team or one of their own. Rampage gets me way more than that, even if I cannibalize a lot of it for deadzone.

I just can't justify the cost and amount of additional minis, but it is a nice package for those who can. Maybe if I didn't have MA backed too.

 
   
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Yeah........I think Mantic needs to take a KS break. Two Surveys intersecting with a new KS project?!? Even their faithful are taxed.

And with the release of 3 Season 5 teams WITHOUT stretches needed, they are showing that KS is unneeded in the first place and they really aren't gaining much if anything from doing a KS versus going straight to retail.
   
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Illinois

Well I think they need the money to dump into the fund to fuel all of the processes, but the money from the campaign isn't the only money they have to work with for this project. They probably wanted to release 16 more teams and they'll take all of the KS/preorder money they can get, but not getting enough won't stop them. That's my guess.

 
   
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Fixture of Dakka







Urgh... I need someone to double check my maths. I'm having a very bad feeling about this.

Early Bird Rampage: $140
Acrylic Counters: $15
Challenge Cup Pack: $25
Dreadball Season 4 Book: $10
Potential Dreadball Season 5 + 6 Books: $20
Weiss: $10

Assuming 1 additional team free per season and 2 additional seasons: That's me requiring a further 5 teams of 8 players: $75


And.... that's me at $295. Which, therefore, is less than $100 below frenzy, with the potential for more stuff I actually need to play the 'complete' game coming.

Anyone seeing any flaws in this horrible, horrible line of logic. Please, please say yes... And explain.
   
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Pious Warrior Priest




UK

Might not be a bad thing to slow down a little with Dreadball, out of all of Mantic's games it has definitely had the most releases.. when Xtreme ships it'll have had 25 teams and all sorts of other minis, accessories etc, sorted for it.

After Xtreme there will be more stuff out for Dreadball than GW ever released for bloodbowl. It has been extremely well supported.

 Compel wrote:
Urgh... I need someone to double check my maths. I'm having a very bad feeling about this.

Early Bird Rampage: $140
Acrylic Counters: $15
Challenge Cup Pack: $25
Dreadball Season 4 Book: $10
Potential Dreadball Season 5 + 6 Books: $20
Weiss: $10

Assuming 1 additional team free per season and 2 additional seasons: That's me requiring a further 5 teams of 8 players: $75


And.... that's me at $295. Which, therefore, is less than $100 below frenzy, with the potential for more stuff I actually need to play the 'complete' game coming.

Anyone seeing any flaws in this horrible, horrible line of logic. Please, please say yes... And explain.


Definitely get Frenzy, from the looks of that list, it makes sense. Frenzy is only $80 more than what your current planned spend is, and some stuff like the ODB rubber mat will come in handy... you'll be able to make back $80 by ebaying any bits you don't want easily.

There will also be MVPs coming that Frenzy gets, but Rampage doesn't.If you want Weiss, it's likely you'll want those as well?

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Yeah, I think this will be my last Mantic KS until 2015 at the earliest. I have an absolute gakload of stuff coming from DFG and KD:M already in the next couple of months, and there is no way on god's green earth that will be sorted before Xtreme arrives. Even this one only snuck in because I love DreadBall in particular.

That said, I'll be holding onto my EB Frenzy, and I'm quite pleased with where that sits now.
   
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Melbourne

Pretty much the conclusion I came to Compel. My wallet just bent over and asked me to be gentle.

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@Krinsath: Look on the bright side, this one is pre-assembled plastic, so it's out of the box and start playing if you want.

Plus, the Crystallans are one team that will look great without paint thanks to translucent plastic... definitely picking them as my s4 freebie.

It's kind of a shame all the teams aren't in different coloured plastic, would lessen the feeling that they need to be painted.

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Earth Dragon wrote:
Visvera is a planet orbiting a dying star, blasted by radiation. The effects of the radiation is yet unknown by scientists, though reports from the planet suggest mutations, instant death – as well as the appearance of seemingly super-charged individuals – are rife. What effects do you think the radiation should offer? Let us know in the comments.

Another bad one.

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California the Southern

Loving all these new races of aliens that are popping up. I might have to spring for the galaxy ball set just for all those MVPs. Seems like we're seeing a LOT more variety of alien races- something that has infuriated me with 40k for many, many, MANY years.

I hope they utilize all these new varieties at least with the Rebs in the future. Too many interesting looking creatures popping up that look like they'd be fun to arm up and go to war with!

At the very least, the more static figures should make great DZ civvies or sneak their way into some Star Wars tabletop games.

I'm sure they'd be playing Dreadball out in Mos Eisley if the Empire would stop trying to squelch the game. At least we'll be having enough various races to populate a cantina!

Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/627383.page#7436324.html
Watch and listen to me ramble about these minis before ruining them with paint!
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Illinois

^ I also like that, while a lot of the aliens are vaguely humanoid, there are a lot of aliens that aren't even close to human shape. They all manage to play dreadball... but there's a bit of tentacles, wings, quad, arms/legs mountings reversed, and various sizing differences that you don't see in a lot of TV and some other mediums.

Obviously we know why they don't want to have horse-people or five armed anti-grav raised chimp-dudes in star trek... would be nightmarish on the budget and hard to pull off in any case. But boy does it make me happy to see it here

 
   
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California

I agree, it is nice to see non-human looking aliens. I hope some more of those make it into the Warpath KS. I hope the Rebs have a Navy SEAL type unit made out of those unicorn-frog guys. That would be awesome.

   
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Perth, West Australia

Earth Dragon wrote:
Yeah........I think Mantic needs to take a KS break. Two Surveys intersecting with a new KS project?!? Even their faithful are taxed.

it comes down to 2 things:
1. Does running multiple KS so quickly slow down or reduce the quality; and
2. Do their "fans" have the cash to afford this many.

I don't think 1 has much if any impact. The whole process has different teams who work at different times. Production can't work until design is done. When design is done, it's a huge waste to have them doing nothing until production is done, ergo the need to find something new. Whatever that new thing is, kickstarter is the way Mantic chooses to (at least partially) fund it. I stand by funding coming from us being better than funding coming from a third party as the "interest" comes to us rather than the third party.

Regarding 2. Is it so much that they can't afford them in quick succession, or just that getting *everything* is largely pointless for most people? Imagine GW did a kickstarter. They had an initiate level for $4,000 where you could get 2,000 points split between 5 armies, and a "warp touched" $15,000 pledge where you get 8,000 points divided among 10 armies. (yes my math checks out by GW logic). GW players don't need 10 armies, and arguably don't need 5. It's similar with Dreadball for a lot of people. Why do you need 2, 5, 16 teams? I mean, *I* need them. But most people don't ; p But there's not much else Mantic can do to bring more cash to the KS I don't think, given the limited scope of the game. There are boards, rules, models and a small number of accessories. Feth... I'm going to end up buying the DBX shirt... I love my Deadzone shirt....

Contemplating at least 1 extra Crystallen team for Deadzone. That feth gon' be swooooooit!

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Greece

 Baragash wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Why does an octopus have boobies?


And the Mierce KS topic has "why does a snake have boobies?" going on....

....I think the answer is "the human race is obsessed with boobies", no?

Spoiler because of huge image
Spoiler:


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 Yonan wrote:
But there's not much else Mantic can do to bring more cash to the KS I don't think, given the limited scope of the game.

Only because Mantic lacks vision. As I've said before, it would have been trivially easy to expand the scope of the miniatures, doubling the market just by adding one extra arm per sculpt.

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