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My theory is that there won't be a ninth edition at all, and all factions will eventually get the dex + supplements treatment.

What some people call bloat, I call GW's persistent edition strategy. And you know what? I'd rather hope that a real alien auxilia for Tau; that Dark Eldar will get their characters back; that ALL aspects will plastic models, Phoenix Lords- all of that, rather than a reset button that pushes back the clock on development by years, while they rerelease everything we've already seen.

I rant about this often [sorry], and someone in another thread gracious pointed out that there is precedent for the soft reboot, where rules changes didn't invalidate dexes in order to allow a soft reboot. Maybe that wouldn't interfere quite as much with the actual development cycle, but it still interferes more than say, giving it 5-10 years worth of annual campaign content, cross-platform integration between BSF/ Kill Team/ Apocalypse and 40k under the current edition (though a decade of CA could transform the game radically, doing it so gradually that we hardly notice).

I don't play marines at all, but if I did, someone suggesting that I need to lose unique units to make the game smoother for everyone else, I'd be a bit offended. Of course, if I were a tournament player, I would be encouraged to only value the best four strategems, or the best unit of every type and automatically regard all the others as trash, so I wouldn't even miss the content. But I am super story based guy, so I LOVE many of the units that Dakka hates. I've never met another person who actually LIKES Drukari Beast masters and their packs and wants to see them redone and improved. As a story based guy, I can allow my beast master to control an Ambull, and I really don't care whether it's a "good" unit, though of course I would prefer that. Ditto for the court of the archon.

And I think that is the potential that dex + supplement brings. I WANT the hive fleets to be developed enough that they get enough variety to justify a dex + supplement, and I'll actually start playing Tau if the do Alien Auxiliary right, or even just give the Kroot Capacity to stand alone.

So I don't want BA, DA, and SW to be made into supplements, because I think that it would inevitably result in a loss of options for those players. It certainly COULD be done, but something would be lost.

Karol wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Well I'm certainly all for folding Deathwatch, Grey Knights, and Sisters into the same Inquisition book as none of those armies are exactly swimming in LOTS OF OPTIONS THEY NEED A CODEX!!!!1!

then why can't those options be developed. All GW has to do is write the rules down. If they wanted to they could make 4-5 unit types out of a single box, and that is not counting possible characters. The GK termintor box already builds termintors, paladins, any of the termintor armoured GK characters, the terminator ancient , the apothecary and the champion. the problem is not the fact that the options aren't there or that the models don't exist. It is jus that GW wrote them bad. When the only difference between a purgation squad and a strike squad, is the fact one can take more hvy weapons, which are so bad you don't want to take them anyway, then there is a problem. But it ain't a problem of lack of varity.

DW toolbox squads are also very intersting, a termintor and an aggressor along side 5 veterans and sniper intercessor will work different then 8 dudes with stormbolters and stormshields.

Grey Knights into Talons of the Emperor - because it gives them a chance to stand out as shadowy psykers, rather than silver ultramarines

but they are not silver ultramarines. ultramarines are cheap and have efficient rules and gear. But lets say they are in a codex with SoS and custodes. Why would anyone ever take a unit of GK termintors, when the same codex has dawnjetbike captins and custodes? Why take a GK banner guy, when the custodes guy gives +4inv to everyone around.? GK cost so much that they out price custodes for less efficiency, and lower stats. They may as well be phased out then, because playing an army of them would be just as bad as it is now. Assuming of course they would keep the options they have right now.

Inquistion rules drop in November WD; I suspect they will be more like the WD Ynnari Dex than the October SoS dex, meaning they will actually get relics, strats, a psychic discipline, wl traits. They'll be able to join any Imperial detachment without breaking it, but they will also have the capacity to take command of detachments that include only their respective chambers militant, thereby granting access to a Inquisition traits and auras. There's also an Inquisition model release in November, though I suspect it's just a repackage of the old metal hereticus crew.

The Inquisition rule set will be the last of the Imperial Agents with current, printed rules 40k. This leads me to believe that by next summer, we'll see all of these Indexes collected and perhaps somewhat tweaked and re-released as Codex: Imperial Agents. For any of you who haven't seen the Imperial Agents data sheets, the Imperial Agents dex should bring together Assassins, Sisters of Silence, the Inquisition and the warbands of the three Rogue Traders [Nyem Shai Murad, Janus Drake and Elucia Vhane's Euclidean Starstriders- the only group to have been given a name].

The Inquisitors will be designed to synergize with their chambers militant, and I think this might give GK one source for a boost, and new content via Pychic Awakening will give them another perk. I don't know if what they get can or will adress any of their issues, but it will be something. I'm not sure that the November PA is going to be the one where they get their content. We suspect, however, that there will be sisters content, which will be in addition to the sisters dex. It drops on the 23rd, but if's looking like you have to buy the box to get it.

All things considered, it's not exactly a good time to be commenting about how limited those ranges are. Even die hard sisters players who have been following the bulletins for MONTHS still don't know what they'll do with acts of faith and order traits. One thing that we saw in the beta dex was that many of the order traits, wl traits, relics and strats augmented the way AoF worked; most people liked or at least didn't mind that part- the problem was that AoF were weak and that many required a roll, despite requiring the expenditure of a finite resource This makes them unsuitable to share a dex with anyone- except the Ecclesiarchy and the Hereticus, with whom they share a long and well established history.