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Hey everyone was just looking over my collection today and was debating on if I should or should not smart selling my GK army it’s fully based and even has the weapons for the storm raven and terminator heavy weapons magnetized but am still not sure if I should pull the trigger would love some feedback if anyone thinks it would be a good idea or if I could even make any kind of profit or even break even

I'd hang onto it. there's two reasons to be dabting sell your army right now.

reason 1: you're not intreasted in playing grey knights anymore having found a new passion, as such it's just taking up space.

reason 2: you feel your GKs suck.

If it's number 1, then frankly you might as well hold onto the army, right now you're not likely to get a lot for it because of the power level. there's just not much demand for grey knights.

and if it's number 2, I'd hold out, and maybe grey knights will get something that makes them better soon, the release schedule for psykic awakening seems like it's very fast after all

Hey Man.

Id never recommend selling a painted army.. Speaking from experience its a decision that leads to regret in a lot of cases. Even if you are not enjoying playing them right now, or are not feeling passionate about the army/hobby currently that could well change and you might look back wishing you had some GK in a few years...
If you got space to store, id say keep hold of a painted army.

If you absolutely want to sell it, it's hard to tell the quality of painting from the photo to determine value.

But as a rule of thumb; you will get more out an army if you sell it separately. Unless its a decent in meta collection..

However, if it's painted already, then you are unlikely to break even unless it's painted to a really high standard or contains a lot of OOP models in which case you are likely to make a profit/break even.

GK are a tricky one as in the current paradigm they are not very good on the table top...

@ OP:

Never sell a beautifully painted army. Period.

If you really need the money or space sell it, if you are just disappointing by the current rules keep it.

Id say unless you need the money for something(which would be fair enough) then hang on to them.

I would hold out until they get a new codex. If you want to sell then you'll have a better chance of selling the army for a better price as people scramble for the new hotness.

It also let's you have more time to mull things over should you decide against selling.

Unless you need to (i.e need money or space) or really don't play with it, I would sell it.

However, with the rumours of 9th edition in next 8 months and possibility of a new codex, it might be worth holding on to it

The question is, do you know or have a buyer that would buy GK in the first place. I mean at some point, when people are offering you bits money for whole units, it may just not be worth selling. Plus painted armies are already hard to sell. For people who have armies the chance of your colours perfectly fitting theirs is rather slim. And I don't think there are any new GK player, that would be willing to buy the army in one go.

Maybe trading it for something else is a better idea. But again, you first need to find someone who wants not just GK, but your GK.

A few thoughts:

1) I'd only sell a completed "army" (in terms of painted and based) if I were going to replace them with the same army painted up to a higher/better/different standard. Ergo if I was replacing the army like for like just better.

2) You are very unlikely to break-even on selling. Most of the time people buy second hand models to get them cheaper than regular retail and because they are built and painted by another hand they are not always up to each persons standard. They might require cleaning up and most people will paint strip them to paint them in their own colours.

Standard GW paint scheme models can sell for more if they are very well painted and "to standard" because many people do just use the official schemes. You may also get more if you've a full army of them painted up (or the current power-meta-build); as then people are buying it for a complete purchase. However selling full armies can take much longer to sell (well into months).

3) I would say if you're not feeling it right now, and you're not under extreme financial pressures. Then the best thing is to put the models into either display or storage and let them sit to one side. Chances are in a few months you might feel like you want to play them again or even just buy and paint up some models for them. Plus GW rules revisions might well make them go from "not so good" to "good" or even "great" which might rekindle your interest.



Selling them off now can be done, but most people will feel regret about it because in the end they do reflect hours of your time and work in building and painting them up. Sometimes its nice to have those models just to appreciate the work you've put into them. Especially since you're likely to sell them at a loss and rebuying them again in months/years time will only ever cost you more.

Wow thanks for all the feedback and it’s not the space or money issue was just a thought since my main armies DA and IG usually take up my time and I don’t get to game as much as I used to due to work/family/commitments I am hoping in a few years when I transfer I can get more time to play and maybe even get my motivation to maintain 3 3k and above armies it is a fun list played with it yesterday and it did decent enough just had trouble with tactical objectives cause of its size and Gate only being restricted to once a turn now which reduces the army I’ll probably end up waiting till 9th(8.5) comes out to pull the trigger or not cause this army did take months to build and paint. I really appreciate the feedback everyone!

The only reasons that I would sell any miniature army:

1: You are going to be homeless/starving unless you sell your army. This is more specifically that you will never get anywhere close to what you put into a painted army financially, unless it is a Golden Daemon paint job. With that in mind why bother selling unless you are desperate?

2: You absolutely hate everything about the army or miniatures and want to start from scratch. For example, I have a Warlord Roman army, which were ok until I started painting them and was disappointed with the details and size of the miniatures. With the new competitors coming into the ancient miniatures market, and good metals still out there, I would rather sell these for pennies on the dollar to get rid of them and start over. The magnetic bases from Gale force that I used are worth more to me than the models themselves at this point.

3: You are fundamentally changing your life where you are leaving the hobby for good. Are you going to backpack/sail around the world for the next five years? You probably wont need your armies then, nor do you want to put them in storage. Ditto for marriage/new babies, etc.

Of course those are my reasons to sell a painted army, which is of course different from un assembled armies.

 Strg Alt wrote:
@ OP:

Never sell a beautifully painted army. Period.

This. Those are some nice models. If anything they're a keepsake reminder of the enjoyment you got out of the hobby. Find a nice place to keep them until you feel the bug again.

I suggest buying a display case instead.

It also depends on how much the army can be appealing in you area. Here a lot of GK players I know have put their armies on the market years ago and they still all have it despite putting it at a very low price. I mean an army like that, complete and IMHO very well painted, it would be hard to sell here even with a 50% or 60% discount of the GW retail price. Not even considering the cost of the paint job.

I also suggest to buy a display case. An army like this could be interesting to sell in a far future, 20+ years maybe, now it doesn't have much value.

Ill add to the feedback.

as others said. unless you are either utterly sick of them, the game they are tied to, or need to sell them for space or monetary reasons, it's likely just not worth it.

a lull in them if your still interested can come back around. on the other hand if you actively regret them or one of the other reasons, it's a bit more reasonable. Im currently thinking about a similar thing myself and more of the above applies to my case.

as to the quality... these look alright from what i can see, did you do those banners as well? problem is, you will not probably never get what you invested back if you do sell. thats just the reality of the market.

Thanks for all the feedback! Like I said it was a fleeting thought after the new chapter approved drop I might just give this army some more time and love plus add a few other units that would be a good addition to the force I really did enjoy building and painting this army up it’s the only 100% (minus the bases) complete army I have it was more a thought of clearing out space and adding to my Dark Angels which is now easily over 16k points and only about 60% painted but I appreciate all the feedback!

Hoping the new rule book will make my army useful again

I just picked it up and I am liking what I'm seeing.

Really? Mine won’t get here for a few days so I’m still just as anxious no time to go to stores so had to order it

Stalked21 wrote:
Really? Mine won’t get here for a few days so I’m still just as anxious no time to go to stores so had to order it

yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, grey Knights aren't going to be "Iron Hands 2.0" but if you're running pure Grey Knights anyway it's pretty solid. I think A chaplain will be TOTALLY worth taking. as the GKs have their own litanies, one oif the highlights IMHO is the one that can add 6 inches to bolt weapon and psi-weapon ranges. suddenly stormbolters are hitting at 30 inches.

I dunno if it'll be eneugh to make you happy if GKs are your only army, but it's eneugh that I'd be willing to take my own GKs out on occasion.

BrianDavion wrote:

Stalked21 wrote:
Really? Mine won’t get here for a few days so I’m still just as anxious no time to go to stores so had to order it

yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, grey Knights aren't going to be "Iron Hands 2.0" but if you're running pure Grey Knights anyway it's pretty solid. I think A chaplain will be TOTALLY worth taking. as the GKs have their own litanies, one oif the highlights IMHO is the one that can add 6 inches to bolt weapon and psi-weapon ranges. suddenly stormbolters are hitting at 30 inches.

I dunno if it'll be eneugh to make you happy if GKs are your only army, but it's eneugh that I'd be willing to take my own GKs out on occasion.

I wouldn't count GK as so far below IH just yet. They seem to be VERY strong with the new abilities from PA4, they are potentially just as bonkers as IH.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

Stalked21 wrote:
Really? Mine won’t get here for a few days so I’m still just as anxious no time to go to stores so had to order it

yeah, I mean don't get me wrong, grey Knights aren't going to be "Iron Hands 2.0" but if you're running pure Grey Knights anyway it's pretty solid. I think A chaplain will be TOTALLY worth taking. as the GKs have their own litanies, one oif the highlights IMHO is the one that can add 6 inches to bolt weapon and psi-weapon ranges. suddenly stormbolters are hitting at 30 inches.

I dunno if it'll be eneugh to make you happy if GKs are your only army, but it's eneugh that I'd be willing to take my own GKs out on occasion.

I wouldn't count GK as so far below IH just yet. They seem to be VERY strong with the new abilities from PA4, they are potentially just as bonkers as IH.

grey Knights are gonna be tough sure, but they're still going to suffer from having some shortages in their tool kit. I think they'd struggle vs an army heavy list.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:


I wouldn't count GK as so far below IH just yet. They seem to be VERY strong with the new abilities from PA4, they are potentially just as bonkers as IH.

We are all still speculating a little bit but it is reasonable to think that GK will at least be on a par with the Raven Guard/Raptors type lists which are 2nd only to IH in overall power rating right now.

I think the new GK have a lot in common with those RG/Raptors lists - a little bit glass hammer but going to hit like a truck with their firepower and deployment/movement shenanigans. More of a skill army than IH so they will not have the ludicrous win percentage of IH. That is just the effect of propping of bad play that IH have; if you are a good player it does not matter to you.

I don't know why people say that GK are going to hit like a truck. They have nothing comperable to what IH shoting can do, or even RG centurions. If this was 2 years ago, then they would have been powerfu. Right now they seem a lot more fun to play, but as powerful of IH, seems like a big claim.

Karol wrote:
I don't know why people say that GK are going to hit like a truck. They have nothing comperable to what IH shoting can do, or even RG centurions. If this was 2 years ago, then they would have been powerfu. Right now they seem a lot more fun to play, but as powerful of IH, seems like a big claim.

10 Strikes, Draigo, psi weapon tide, Psybolt ammo:

40 * .888 * .666 * .333 * 2 = 16 damage to Centurions for 3CP and almost entirely unstoppable. Throw on smites and other spells from the unit and Draigo. Salt to taste.

Grand Master, +1 to cast and reroll psychic relic, +6" spells strat, 3" deepstrike strat, +1 to casts after successful cast strat, and Inner Fire.

Drop in, +1 from army, +1 from relic. Cast smite with almost no chance of failure and a reroll to prevent perils. High probability of D6 smite. Pop Empyric for another +1. Cast Inner Fire with an average result of ~11 and cause 7 to 8 mortal wounds. For even more fun use the 3D6 cast strat.

That's Bobby dead from 133 points and 2 to 3 CP.

Those are the extreme examples that may not pan out, but paint a picture of the potential.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Cast smite with almost no chance of failure and a reroll to prevent perils. High probability of D6 smite.

Rites of Banishment preclude the possibility of doing a d6 smite. You only get 1 mortal on success, regardless of psychic test result (2 with relevant active tide)

ryzouken wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
Cast smite with almost no chance of failure and a reroll to prevent perils. High probability of D6 smite.

Rites of Banishment preclude the possibility of doing a d6 smite. You only get 1 mortal on success, regardless of psychic test result (2 with relevant active tide)

Yes, sorry, forgot about that for some reason. It'd be D2 with a switch of tides before shooting to get to 9 MW reliably.

Everything I sell ends up getting better.

I gotta day with the new rules and litanies and fates I think there called grey knights are looking tougher than ever and the points reduction means I can field more units than I could originally!