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2019/12/11 05:47:24
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Slaanesh Daemon psychic power Hysterical Frenzy:
“Select a single friendly SLAANESH DAEMON unit within 18””
Emperor’s Children disco lord has SLAANESH and DAEMON, but I’ve noticed DAEMON isn’t a faction keyword like it is for the units in the daemon codex. Will it still work?
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2019/12/11 07:12:29
Subject: Re:Keyword Confusion
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Yes, it works.
From the BRB update 1.6
Once the battle has begun, the distinction between keywords
and Faction keywords no longer has any effect – both are used
to interact with abilities identically.
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2019/12/11 08:02:31
Subject: Re:Keyword Confusion
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Dakka Veteran
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 p5freak wrote:Yes, it works.
From the BRB update 1.6
Once the battle has begun, the distinction between keywords
and Faction keywords no longer has any effect – both are used
to interact with abilities identically.
with a small exception for stratagems
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2019/12/11 11:12:33
Subject: Re:Keyword Confusion
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Norn Queen
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terry wrote: p5freak wrote:Yes, it works.
From the BRB update 1.6
Once the battle has begun, the distinction between keywords
and Faction keywords no longer has any effect – both are used
to interact with abilities identically.
with a small exception for stratagems
No, there isn't an exception for stratagems.
Codex: Tyranids, Codex: Chaos Daemons and Codex: Space Marines have special snowflake FAQs that restrict stratagems, it is not a basic rule.
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2019/12/11 11:40:46
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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So... there is an exception. That is precisely what those FAQs are.
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2019/12/11 11:45:12
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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 Stux wrote:So... there is an exception. That is precisely what those FAQs are.
Indeed.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2019/12/11 12:04:01
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Norn Queen
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Stux wrote:So... there is an exception. That is precisely what those FAQs are.
That isn't what terry said though. He said "with a small exception for stratagems" with the implication that it applies to ALL stratagems. If he had said " with a small exception for some stratagems", he would have been correct. The exception only applies to those three book's stratagems, not to any other stratagems.
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2019/12/11 13:31:11
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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 BaconCatBug wrote: Stux wrote:So... there is an exception. That is precisely what those FAQs are.
That isn't what terry said though. He said "with a small exception for stratagems" with the implication that it applies to ALL stratagems. If he had said " with a small exception for some stratagems", he would have been correct. The exception only applies to those three book's stratagems, not to any other stratagems.
Sigh. Once again, BCB is technically correct and clarifies a point that did not really need to be clarified. Generally speaking, a small exception doesn't apply to every situation. Ergo, small exceptions usually only apply to SOME situations. It's possible to clarify something you think needs to be clarified without being so abrasive.
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2019/12/11 13:43:00
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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BaconCatBug wrote: Stux wrote:So... there is an exception. That is precisely what those FAQs are.
That isn't what terry said though. He said "with a small exception for stratagems" with the implication that it applies to ALL stratagems. If he had said " with a small exception for some stratagems", he would have been correct. The exception only applies to those three book's stratagems, not to any other stratagems.
Ok, fair enough. You could have clarified that you were referring to an implication you received, but I get what you are saying.
There are SOME exceptions for stratagems from certain sources, but not a blanket exception for all stratagems.
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2019/12/11 14:53:38
Subject: Keyword Confusion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Kriswall wrote: BaconCatBug wrote: Stux wrote:So... there is an exception. That is precisely what those FAQs are.
That isn't what terry said though. He said "with a small exception for stratagems" with the implication that it applies to ALL stratagems. If he had said " with a small exception for some stratagems", he would have been correct. The exception only applies to those three book's stratagems, not to any other stratagems.
Sigh. Once again, BCB is technically correct and clarifies a point that did not really need to be clarified. Generally speaking, a small exception doesn't apply to every situation. Ergo, small exceptions usually only apply to SOME situations. It's possible to clarify something you think needs to be clarified without being so abrasive.
Actually BCB pointing out which FAQs have the special snowflake FAQs restricting stratagems is something that was good to clarify.
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