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Hello all!

Full disclosure... I have not read the PA books because I'm mostly a Necrons player at this point and they haven't shown up yet.

Is there a consistent narrative from book to book, or is this more of a "here are some random things happening throughout the galaxy" sort of series? I'm assuming that there is no consistent narrative since there don't appear to be in major players appearing in all books.

I don't know enough to be 100% certain, but I do have 'Blood of Baal' and it seems very much specific to Blood Angels and Tyranids and not really linked to other PA stuff.

I know the Cicatrix Maledictum is a common theme as it's largely responsible for causing the Psychic Awakening.

Not really as far as I can tell.

Although I'm sometimes not sure if GW released the right stories seeing as they keep talking about a risen Phoenix which didn't happen and the Thousand Sons are being attacked by Grey Knights and the...Dark Angels? Which makes so little sense.

pm713 wrote:
Not really as far as I can tell.

Although I'm sometimes not sure if GW released the right stories seeing as they keep talking about a risen Phoenix which didn't happen and the Thousand Sons are being attacked by Grey Knights and the...Dark Angels? Which makes so little sense.

why does the 1k sons being attacked by Loyalist space marines not make sense?

the over arching narrative is the cicatrix causing psychic disturbances and emerging psychic powers -the 'psychic awakening'.

The books are just the events happening around the galaxy during the time this upheaval has occurred.

The 1k Sons getting involved with anything other than obsessing over vengeance on Fenris is unusual.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
The 1k Sons getting involved with anything other than obsessing over vengeance on Fenris is unusual.

focusing exclusivly on the space wolves makes for a 1 note villian aimed at a single SM chapter. 1k sons deserve more then that

They really don't.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
They really don't.

*sighs and baps Dakkawolf on the nose with a rolled up newspaper* yes they do.

*Shoves newspaper down Brian's pants*
Next time you get an enema with it.
Their fans obsess over it as bad as they do.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
*Shoves newspaper down Brian's pants*
Next time you get an enema with it.
Their fans obsess over it as bad as they do.

which is why 1K sons deserve to be shown as something other then just "rarr we hate space wolves" I suppose deserve might be the wrong word, perhaps a better would would be "need" the 1k sons are faaaaaaar from just a buncha "decent guys screwed over by Russ" there's a lot more depth to it, and their fall is pretty complete at this point. needs to be showed.

BrianDavion wrote:
why does the 1k sons being attacked by Loyalist space marines not make sense?

Loyalist Space Marines and Dark Angels.

BrianDavion wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Not really as far as I can tell.

Although I'm sometimes not sure if GW released the right stories seeing as they keep talking about a risen Phoenix which didn't happen and the Thousand Sons are being attacked by Grey Knights and the...Dark Angels? Which makes so little sense.

why does the 1k sons being attacked by Loyalist space marines not make sense?

Because the motive for the DA is they were wounded by the 1K sons at Fenris. Which is moronic considering the people who lost a planet, lost large amounts of their population, lost more marines and already had a TEN THOUSAND YEAR ONGOING GRUDGE apparently don't. GW don't know what they're writing. I realised that after the first PA book.

As others have said each book is pretty much stand alone with no cross overs.
They fall under the whole PA story arc but thats about it.

At this point Psychic Awakening just seems like a shorter way of saying "buy this $40.00 book for half a page of stuff you might actually use".

Because otherwise it doesn't seem to be having any kind of impact or signficiance.

Tend to agree.
However Im interested to see after all the factions get a book if they release a "wrap up" book outlining the conclusion - maybe the rift gets bigger or closes completely or someone manages to close sections of it etc etc.

If they dont do that then yeah its basically a collection of local conflicts with some "cool" rules bungled on.

PA has already passed in the current setting. I think PA happens during the Indomitus crusade?

 Ratius wrote:
Tend to agree.
However Im interested to see after all the factions get a book if they release a "wrap up" book outlining the conclusion - maybe the rift gets bigger or closes completely or someone manages to close sections of it etc etc.

If they dont do that then yeah its basically a collection of local conflicts with some "cool" rules bungled on.

I would like to see them do an 'event' with things that impact all games within the setting in some way. 40k, KT, Necromunda, and Angry Airplanes.

pm713 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Not really as far as I can tell.

Although I'm sometimes not sure if GW released the right stories seeing as they keep talking about a risen Phoenix which didn't happen and the Thousand Sons are being attacked by Grey Knights and the...Dark Angels? Which makes so little sense.

why does the 1k sons being attacked by Loyalist space marines not make sense?

Because the motive for the DA is they were wounded by the 1K sons at Fenris. Which is moronic considering the people who lost a planet, lost large amounts of their population, lost more marines and already had a TEN THOUSAND YEAR ONGOING GRUDGE apparently don't. GW don't know what they're writing. I realised that after the first PA book.

just because GW doesn't insist on making 1k sons a one note faction who only ever fight the space wolves doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. I mean seriously if the dark angels find out where the 1k sons are, are they going to attack themselves or are they going to share that intell with the space wolves?

BrianDavion wrote:

pm713 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Not really as far as I can tell.

Although I'm sometimes not sure if GW released the right stories seeing as they keep talking about a risen Phoenix which didn't happen and the Thousand Sons are being attacked by Grey Knights and the...Dark Angels? Which makes so little sense.

why does the 1k sons being attacked by Loyalist space marines not make sense?

Because the motive for the DA is they were wounded by the 1K sons at Fenris. Which is moronic considering the people who lost a planet, lost large amounts of their population, lost more marines and already had a TEN THOUSAND YEAR ONGOING GRUDGE apparently don't. GW don't know what they're writing. I realised that after the first PA book.

just because GW doesn't insist on making 1k sons a one note faction who only ever fight the space wolves doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing. I mean seriously if the dark angels find out where the 1k sons are, are they going to attack themselves or are they going to share that intell with the space wolves?

Share the intel. They're attacking a stronghold of Chaos Marines and have an easy to persuade ally standing right next to them. It still seems weird that the DA would find them rather than the people who spend all their time looking for them...

You can believe GW know what they're doing if you like but I don't. Just look at the Siege of Fenris, the 1K Sons role in it was ultimately just smashing and burning which is the most basic revenge I can think of and completely dumps over the battle of the fang where they got a much better revenge. They're supposed to be smart and sophisticated enough to know that destroying the Wolves future is far better than just killing them and burning their stuff.