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So Ork Snipers is commonly used as a joke for Inquisitorial assasinations but that leads to the question of are Ork Snipers actually a thing. I mean on one hand 99.99 percent of orks couldnt hit the broad side of a barn if they were sitting 5 feet away from said barn..... Bbbuuutttt on the other hand Kommandos are a thing. So are there any mentions in the lore of Ork Kommandos using sniper rifles? Or even just a particular intelligent Gretchin picking one up. I find it hard to beleive that in the vast vast vast history of ork kind not a single Boy or Grot picked up and shot some variety of sniper rifle at least once.
That’s surprising to know that they were in 3rd; I was always under the impression that they aren’t patient enough to do a sniper’s job, kommandos are as close as they come these days.
Kommandos and Gretchin are the most capable of being snipers. An Ork's idea of "sniping" might be far more about suppressive fire and less "precision damage", but a single Kommando "sniping" with a big shoota, keeping the enemy pinned is a good idea!
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2020/01/25 13:48:28
Subject: Re:Ork Snipers, are they actually a thing
I'm sure that the Blood Axes Clan have used sniper rifles, as their MO is to wear camouflage and sneak about, which why the other ork clans are pissed off at them.
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Grots would certainly be happy to have a long-range rifle instead of being corralled to the frontline with a half-working pistol. Then again, the orks might not like the idea of giving a dangerous weapon to a grot. He might start thinking he shouldn't be bossed around anymore...
Big Mac wrote: That’s surprising to know that they were in 3rd; I was always under the impression that they aren’t patient enough to do a sniper’s job, kommandos are as close as they come these days.
I made a unit of them back when. The Loota entry at the time let you take a single other codex unit’s weapon options plus transport (from a list which was all IG and SM options) for the squad. Sniper rifles at the time always hit on a 2+ and wounded on a 4+. Orks, being the terrible shots they were only hit with them on a 4+ though.
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Doesn't one of the Gaunts Ghost novels have the team pinned in their tank because an Ork sniper keeps taking them out as they attempt to leave? Ork snipers definitely exist in the lore. They should exist on the tabletop really.
2020/01/26 09:03:20
Subject: Re:Ork Snipers, are they actually a thing
I can Imagine an Ork with their eqivalent of a Barret 50 quite enjoying himself.
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Da Boss wrote: A particularly odd Kommando might use a sniper rifle, but it would not appeal to the average ork very much. Louder and shootier is better!
Orks would live snipers
High-powered rifles are some of the loudest man-portable weapons out there. When it comes to how "shooty" they are, I personally love the Archer quote:
I'm spooning a Barrett 50 cal. I could kill a building.
We're talking about a weapon that can penetrate several inches of concrete - or a literal tree - and still have killing power. It definitely qualifies as shooty.
Feral Ork trappas , in 3rd/4th edition used to have a decent BS according to their unit entry, had to learn to aim because feral tribes had so few bullets....
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2020/01/28 19:55:48
Subject: Re:Ork Snipers, are they actually a thing
I always imagined Ork sniping to be similar to a fishing trip. They pull up a chair, bring a few barrels of grog and spend the whole day making various bets on who can make the best shot. The 'relaxing' pastime for an Ork.
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There is likely an OddBoy subtype that is an Ork Sniper that we haven't seen yet. Likely ones that prefer one giant bang instead of a load of smaller ones.
Honestly, Ork Lootas are the closest thing to Snipers on the table. They've got the longest range guns in Orks. Even though they are technically heavy weapons platforms.
Da Boss wrote: A particularly odd Kommando might use a sniper rifle, but it would not appeal to the average ork very much. Louder and shootier is better!
Evidently, Orks don't know about Barretts
Technically, sniping is just the act of firing from a concealed position, so kommandos are basically snipers already.
Now, if you mean long range precision shooting...not really. That's more of a grot thing, but they aren't allowed to have proper weapons. Although seeing a grot try to shoot an orky anti-materiel rifle (so basically higher than .50) would be hilarious.
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Tiennos wrote: Grots would certainly be happy to have a long-range rifle instead of being corralled to the frontline with a half-working pistol. Then again, the orks might not like the idea of giving a dangerous weapon to a grot. He might start thinking he shouldn't be bossed around anymore...
Ok, now I'm just imagining a grot holing up in a clock tower and taking pot shots at Orks after a rough day at the mek shop. Or Ghazkull getting shot by a grot hiding on a grassy knoll.
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CthuluIsSpy wrote: Ok, now I'm just imagining [...] Ghazkull getting shot by a grot hiding on a grassy knoll.
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I'd actually say the closest thing Orkz have to a sniper rifle is the Shokk Attack Gun. You know, the weapon that teleports a snotling into the body of your enemies. Seems like that would require quite a high level of accuracy.
2020/01/30 06:41:57
Subject: Re:Ork Snipers, are they actually a thing
As they said above back in the day things were different now-the dakka jet pretty much is the best shooter in the army with the stratagem + super exploding dice.
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Barrett's? .50 cals... No, Orks need BIG guns.. they want Anti-Material Rifles, (AMRs) that start at the .50 cal...and go up from there into the 14.5 to 20mm+ range (I have found one example of a 30mm AMR)... which may even give it the damage of a Krak grenade (if anyone wants to do the math for that).
But, I could see it being a job for lazy or drunk orks on the battlefield where they set up (maybe off the board) and just take potshots at anything they can see for the entirety of the battle.
Any stat line ork snipers anywhere or are they just a BS of 3? Give the AMR an autocannon stat line? I can see it.
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I think Ork snipers would probably use Auto cannon as sniper rifles -each trying to out do the next in the size and power and unwieldiness of their chosen gun
Tiennos wrote: When you put it like that, it sounds like it should be an option for flash gitz.
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Kommandos would make more sense as would blood axes i believe..
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Hellebore wrote: I think Ork snipers would probably use Auto cannon as sniper rifles -each trying to out do the next in the size and power and unwieldiness of their chosen gun
It could work. Up until a few years ago the record for the longest range sniper kill was held by an American Vietnam War soldier using a converted. 50 cal machine gun.
2020/01/31 09:51:29
Subject: Re:Ork Snipers, are they actually a thing
If by sniper you mean an ork with 5-10 sniper rifles taped togetehr than yeah I could see an ork enjoying himself doing orky dakka shootin in asneaky way init,
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Give an ork a gun and say, this long range gun let's you hit any target at long distances.
Would that Ork ever miss as they truely believe they will always hit as long as they shoot with that gun?
"The Anzion Theorem of Orkoid Mechamorphic Resonant Kinetics" is a Techpriest's guess as to how Ork tech works. Orks don't actually work that way. Their tech might only work if an Ork uses it, but that doesn't mean that every Ork is a Psyker.
I apologize, 1d4chan's craziness has become so pervasive that it's infected the public conscious. Ork's cant shoot a person with a stick if they think its a gun. Can a Ork salvage bits of scrap that an intelligent race think is unusable and turn it into a shoota? Probably.
There are very strong minded Orks that think they are unbeatable and yet can be beaten by other races.
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