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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 19:20:59
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It is interesting to see that there are various incarnate gods incorporated onto the table top, but I couldn't but help myself answer this question: where are all of the other models for the incarnate gods (i.e. Sigmar, Tyrion, Malerion, etc.)? Seems a bit odd having some gods available but not others. Would be a very interesting sight to see gods fighting off against each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 19:28:56
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Crazed Bloodkine
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Sigmar - Think he decided that he needed to be a overall leader, rather than actually out on the front lines. He even gave his signature weapon to the Celestant-Prime to wield in his stead.
Tyrion - Remains to be seen. His bro Teclis has already been revealed, so who knows if he will show up.
Malerion - Still wrapped up in mystery, and other than some Malign Portents fiction, he hasn't show up much at all. Automatically Appended Next Post:
I think we'll see more in time. Depending on when the narrative gets to them.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 19:34:31
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I suspect we'll see Malarion when we see the Shadow Aelf army released - though the concept art we've got in the big rulebook shows him looking very much like a dreadlord/demon/devil with clawed hands, long horns on his head etc... Draconic influence is mentioned as being something his people have.
As for Tyrion well we might well see him with more of the Luminoth releases. Sigmar is the only one that I think will hide out from the front lines at present; although in theory he fights through his Stormcast so they are like he is on the battlefield.
In the end the only Gods we certainly won't directly see will be the Chaos Gods - all Five of them are insanely powerful in their own right and would utterly obliterate the games we play. Of course we sort of get them in the form of their greatest agents - their Greater and Exalted Demons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 21:40:25
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Yeah the chaos gods are a league of their own, they don't even have physical form (at least as we understand it).
Sigmar we won't see, he decided that he needs to lead because fighting was leading to some bad decision-making. Also a great deal of his power is now invested in the Stormcast so he is much weaker than he was in the Age of Myth.
Gorkamorka I doubt we will see, both because he had a falling out with himself and because he hasn't been referenced as having a physical form since the Age of Myth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 22:02:51
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gorkamorka needs some stories though because every time I hear him I think of the Chaos God version from 40K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 23:24:56
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Let's not forget that Sigmar managed to get his lord relictor into Garden of Nurgle, directly to Nurgle's mansion, and slapped him with thunder by releasing the souls of dead stormcast said relictor gathered on the way, so they're not that invincible. And of course they do fear both Archie and Nagash, if we recall the final story of Malign Portents that was published in WD if I recall.
Seems like Chaos gods have a lot harder time against fantasy beings than 40k's faux-Earthlings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/21 23:37:14
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I really wish GW would publish the Malign Portents in its own book even if it were only a digital book
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/22 01:33:43
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Overread wrote:I really wish GW would publish the Malign Portents in its own book even if it were only a digital book
I think you can still get everything online on the malign portents site, I just wish they did more of those stories. It hyped up at least three factions during their stories and it was so fun.
Honestly I think I would love to see a forgeworld primarch release of Sigmar, just for one monstrous campaign, like chaos finally breaching into azyr or maybe about to destroy Hammerhal and sigmar wants to stretch his legs.
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Atalurnos Fleetbreaker's Akhelian Corps- 2500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/22 02:22:16
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Cronch wrote:Let's not forget that Sigmar managed to get his lord relictor into Garden of Nurgle, directly to Nurgle's mansion, and slapped him with thunder by releasing the souls of dead stormcast said relictor gathered on the way, so they're not that invincible. And of course they do fear both Archie and Nagash, if we recall the final story of Malign Portents that was published in WD if I recall.
Seems like Chaos gods have a lot harder time against fantasy beings than 40k's faux-Earthlings.
I'm not sure if "afraid" is the right word towards Archaeon, more wary of his long-term intentions. As for Nagash, they were literally laughing at him when he was conducting his great ritual, because Skaven skrewed it up. And before that the largest armies that stood a chance of stopping the ritual were diverted to fight each other by the Changling. Tzeentch WANTED Nagash's ritual to happen because he knew it would go wrong and unleash tons of untamed magic. Nagash has no idea the extent to which he was (and is) being toyed with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/22 10:01:35
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There's a tale of when Khorne invaded the lands of Slaanesh and a bunch of Bloodthirsters breached far enough to reach his throne room. It was when Syll'Esske pair united and fought and killed those demons, earning the human the Demon Prince status and binding Prince and Deamonette together outside of the fighting pits.
In that situation several Bloodthirsters were not even considered a threat, but an embarrassment if the god had to step into deal with them. Basically it was saving face.
Plus don't forget they did manage to corner and capture Slaanesh; yet even all the Aelven Gods could only bind him, not kill.
The Chaos Gods are clearly far more powerful and their "mortality" is connected to another realm in such a way it might even be totally impossible to "kill" them in the sense we'd understand it as.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/22 12:49:01
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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NinthMusketeer wrote:Cronch wrote:Let's not forget that Sigmar managed to get his lord relictor into Garden of Nurgle, directly to Nurgle's mansion, and slapped him with thunder by releasing the souls of dead stormcast said relictor gathered on the way, so they're not that invincible. And of course they do fear both Archie and Nagash, if we recall the final story of Malign Portents that was published in WD if I recall.
Seems like Chaos gods have a lot harder time against fantasy beings than 40k's faux-Earthlings.
I'm not sure if "afraid" is the right word towards Archaeon, more wary of his long-term intentions. As for Nagash, they were literally laughing at him when he was conducting his great ritual, because Skaven skrewed it up. And before that the largest armies that stood a chance of stopping the ritual were diverted to fight each other by the Changling. Tzeentch WANTED Nagash's ritual to happen because he knew it would go wrong and unleash tons of untamed magic. Nagash has no idea the extent to which he was (and is) being toyed with.
The chaos gods stopped laughing when Nagash pulled the ritual back somewhat, it didn't go exactly as planned even if Tzeentch did benefit. Nagash's meglomania helped somewhat, actually going by Malign Portents so far the chaos gods only really consider Nagash a threat really. Sigmar to them is just another upstart god, they dealt with his kind many times before according to a realmgate war book. The new Tzeentch tome does confirm that the chaos gods have destroyed and taken countless worlds before WHFB, the fantasy world was just one of many.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/22 14:09:49
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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there was no harm of any consequence
Beyond proving that it is possible to hurt a chaos god in his place of power. And sure, it didn't harm him beyond causing significant pain, but it was the Doolittle raid of Mortal Realms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/02/22 16:18:45
Subject: The Clash of Incarnate Gods
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Overread wrote:There's a tale of when Khorne invaded the lands of Slaanesh and a bunch of Bloodthirsters breached far enough to reach his throne room. It was when Syll'Esske pair united and fought and killed those demons, earning the human the Demon Prince status and binding Prince and Deamonette together outside of the fighting pits.
In that situation several Bloodthirsters were not even considered a threat, but an embarrassment if the god had to step into deal with them. Basically it was saving face.
Plus don't forget they did manage to corner and capture Slaanesh; yet even all the Aelven Gods could only bind him, not kill.
The Chaos Gods are clearly far more powerful and their "mortality" is connected to another realm in such a way it might even be totally impossible to "kill" them in the sense we'd understand it as.
Honestly I read the aelven gods binding him rather than killing him to be something required to keep fishing the souls out of the slaanesh so they can get their nostalgi- I mean, their own elven armies. I honestly don’t think that they will get to the point where they kill any of the chaos gods outright, but it would be interesting to see that fight between the elven gods and slaanesh.
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413th Lucius Exterminaton Legion- 4,000pts
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