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Made in nz
Cog in the Machine




New Zealand

Hey Dakka,

Does anyone have, experience with tabletop simulator on steam?

Are people starting to have virtual games of 40k instead of physical ones, due to the pandemic?

will people be using it or simply catching up on your painting backlog during isolation?

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Building towards 1000pts
 
   
Made in ca
Legendary Master of the Chapter





I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
Made in ca
Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos





British Columbia

BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.

 Crimson Devil wrote:
That's what 7th edition is about. Yelling "Forge the Narrative Pussy!" while kicking your opponent in the dick.
 BlaxicanX wrote:
A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.


 
   
Made in us
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BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here


Same here, but now I'm out of grey paint...

Guardsmen, hear me! Cadia may lie in ruin, but her proud people do not! For each brother and sister who gave their lives to Him as martyrs, we will reap a vengeance fiftyfold! Cadia may be no more, but will never be forgotten; our foes shall tremble in fear at the name, for their doom shall come from the barrels of Cadian guns, fired by Cadian hands! Forward, for vengeance and retribution, in His name and the names of our fallen comrades! 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut



NE Ohio, USA

I imagine I'll get some extra painting done.

Hell, if I'm forced to quarantine for some reason, my Orks might even see some actual progress towards finally hitting the table.
(my Ork army & when it'll be table ready is a running joke within my circle. I've had this immense pile of orks/ork parts on my work table for about 15 years. Every now & then a few more orks will coalesce into finished models. Sometimes a random vehicle!) I MIGHT have about 500 pts finished. But whatever the total, the units don't comprise any type of legal formation. Maybe were I to play Kill Team though....
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch






 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.


This is known. I expect to have most of my army finished by the time this is done.
GF is staying away due to my dad and they closed all the gyms so got feth all to do.

I am going to download eve online though to keep me occupied until FF7 remake comes out and hopefully not fall to addiction.

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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/772746.page#10378083 - My progress/failblog painting blog thingy

Eldar- 4436 pts


AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
Made in us
Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine




The Void

 Argive wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.


This is known. I expect to have most of my army finished by the time this is done.
GF is staying away due to my dad and they closed all the gyms so got feth all to do.

I am going to download eve online though to keep me occupied until FF7 remake comes out and hopefully not fall to addiction.


Damn, EvE is still going? I was playing that back in 2004. Good luck not falling to addiction. I'm also waiting on FF7. But I think Doom Eternal will last me awhile.

Always 1 on the crazed roll. 
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch






 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Argive wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.


This is known. I expect to have most of my army finished by the time this is done.
GF is staying away due to my dad and they closed all the gyms so got feth all to do.

I am going to download eve online though to keep me occupied until FF7 remake comes out and hopefully not fall to addiction.


Damn, EvE is still going? I was playing that back in 2004. Good luck not falling to addiction. I'm also waiting on FF7. But I think Doom Eternal will last me awhile.


Im sure it is! They have regular updates and the community semes to be growing as more people have acess. Certainly the best space sim game/mmo I have ever palyed. It has low requirements if you don't care about graphics. Think they keep breaking records for battles each year. How much of that is people multi boxing though... But it seems community is somewhat growing. To me its a great game to have in the background while painting and waiting for layers to dry/take breaks. I like to jump in stealth ships scan systems for goodies and anomalies, chill in space and watch the world go by etc. Hardcore pvp is fun like stealth bombing enemy fleets but takes a long time to get good at lol. Good God... I will probably loose couple years of my life to it once again and my GF will leave me .

Im giving Doom a miss until they sort out the bugs and the online play. Will pick it up at a discount down the line.
COD warzones dropped and I have downloaded it so might lay that. Played one quick game and it looks fun for a free to play.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/03/19 04:31:52


https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/772746.page#10378083 - My progress/failblog painting blog thingy

Eldar- 4436 pts


AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
Made in us
Decrepit Dakkanaut




I've got a Gundam that I need to finish. I'll probably do that. Then I'll get to making 4 more bolter dudes and then make my Intercessor stand-ins.

I'm not allowed to work from home, which sucks. Luckily my building doesn't have anyone with respiratory problems (to the extreme), and we are screening all the employees each day.

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
Made in us
Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine




The Void

 Argive wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Argive wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.


This is known. I expect to have most of my army finished by the time this is done.
GF is staying away due to my dad and they closed all the gyms so got feth all to do.

I am going to download eve online though to keep me occupied until FF7 remake comes out and hopefully not fall to addiction.


Damn, EvE is still going? I was playing that back in 2004. Good luck not falling to addiction. I'm also waiting on FF7. But I think Doom Eternal will last me awhile.


Im sure it is! They have regular updates and the community semes to be growing as more people have acess. Certainly the best space sim game/mmo I have ever palyed. It has low requirements if you don't care about graphics. Think they keep breaking records for battles each year. How much of that is people multi boxing though... But it seems community is somewhat growing. To me its a great game to have in the background while painting and waiting for layers to dry/take breaks. I like to jump in stealth ships scan systems for goodies and anomalies, chill in space and watch the world go by etc. Hardcore pvp is fun like stealth bombing enemy fleets but takes a long time to get good at lol. Good God... I will probably loose couple years of my life to it once again and my GF will leave me .

Im giving Doom a miss until they sort out the bugs and the online play. Will pick it up at a discount down the line.
COD warzones dropped and I have downloaded it so might lay that. Played one quick game and it looks fun for a free to play.


Oh, I know all about EvE's PvP I played till about 2007. Stopped a few months after Interdictors were released because of college. I was true -10 security pirate. 1600 kills, 400 of which were solo kills. Mostly flew interceptors and HACs.

Always 1 on the crazed roll. 
   
Made in gb
Executing Exarch






 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Argive wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Argive wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.


This is known. I expect to have most of my army finished by the time this is done.
GF is staying away due to my dad and they closed all the gyms so got feth all to do.

I am going to download eve online though to keep me occupied until FF7 remake comes out and hopefully not fall to addiction.


Damn, EvE is still going? I was playing that back in 2004. Good luck not falling to addiction. I'm also waiting on FF7. But I think Doom Eternal will last me awhile.


Im sure it is! They have regular updates and the community semes to be growing as more people have acess. Certainly the best space sim game/mmo I have ever palyed. It has low requirements if you don't care about graphics. Think they keep breaking records for battles each year. How much of that is people multi boxing though... But it seems community is somewhat growing. To me its a great game to have in the background while painting and waiting for layers to dry/take breaks. I like to jump in stealth ships scan systems for goodies and anomalies, chill in space and watch the world go by etc. Hardcore pvp is fun like stealth bombing enemy fleets but takes a long time to get good at lol. Good God... I will probably loose couple years of my life to it once again and my GF will leave me .

Im giving Doom a miss until they sort out the bugs and the online play. Will pick it up at a discount down the line.
COD warzones dropped and I have downloaded it so might lay that. Played one quick game and it looks fun for a free to play.


Oh, I know all about EvE's PvP I played till about 2007. Stopped a few months after Interdictors were released because of college. I was true -10 security pirate. 1600 kills, 400 of which were solo kills. Mostly flew interceptors and HACs.


Impressive! I don't think I ever shined at solo combat. But it is satisfying and a rush!
Did you fly with any of the big alliences?

I was a small time low sec gang pilot for most of my career. Coming and going from the game on and off. Had several year odd long breaks as is the way. Minmatar for lyfe!!
Black ops and stealth gang hits was my favourite part of the game but its all very patient hunting/fishing and hard to keep people interested with not a lot going on most of the time. Then got recruited by goonswarm on my last stint in the game at least 4 years ago while gakking around and annoying people with stealthing to watch them freak out . Its the sort of game where if you think you are paranoid about being hit shilst doing xyz you are probably going to be hit while doing xyz…

I think Im going to dust off my old account and see what cool new things they have done. Its certainly a game that has never truly stopped growing and the community is just amazing.
Also shady as feth in the end game stages.... lol.

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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/772746.page#10378083 - My progress/failblog painting blog thingy

Eldar- 4436 pts


AngryAngel80 wrote:
I don't know, when I see awesome rules, I'm like " Baby, your rules looking so fine. Maybe I gotta add you to my first strike battalion eh ? "
 
   
Made in us
Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine




The Void

 Argive wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Argive wrote:
 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 Argive wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.


This is known. I expect to have most of my army finished by the time this is done.
GF is staying away due to my dad and they closed all the gyms so got feth all to do.

I am going to download eve online though to keep me occupied until FF7 remake comes out and hopefully not fall to addiction.


Damn, EvE is still going? I was playing that back in 2004. Good luck not falling to addiction. I'm also waiting on FF7. But I think Doom Eternal will last me awhile.


Im sure it is! They have regular updates and the community semes to be growing as more people have acess. Certainly the best space sim game/mmo I have ever palyed. It has low requirements if you don't care about graphics. Think they keep breaking records for battles each year. How much of that is people multi boxing though... But it seems community is somewhat growing. To me its a great game to have in the background while painting and waiting for layers to dry/take breaks. I like to jump in stealth ships scan systems for goodies and anomalies, chill in space and watch the world go by etc. Hardcore pvp is fun like stealth bombing enemy fleets but takes a long time to get good at lol. Good God... I will probably loose couple years of my life to it once again and my GF will leave me .

Im giving Doom a miss until they sort out the bugs and the online play. Will pick it up at a discount down the line.
COD warzones dropped and I have downloaded it so might lay that. Played one quick game and it looks fun for a free to play.


Oh, I know all about EvE's PvP I played till about 2007. Stopped a few months after Interdictors were released because of college. I was true -10 security pirate. 1600 kills, 400 of which were solo kills. Mostly flew interceptors and HACs.


Impressive! I don't think I ever shined at solo combat. But it is satisfying and a rush!
Did you fly with any of the big alliences?

I was a small time low sec gang pilot for most of my career. Coming and going from the game on and off. Had several year odd long breaks as is the way. Minmatar for lyfe!!
Black ops and stealth gang hits was my favourite part of the game but its all very patient hunting/fishing and hard to keep people interested with not a lot going on most of the time. Then got recruited by goonswarm on my last stint in the game at least 4 years ago while gakking around and annoying people with stealthing to watch them freak out . Its the sort of game where if you think you are paranoid about being hit shilst doing xyz you are probably going to be hit while doing xyz…

I think Im going to dust off my old account and see what cool new things they have done. Its certainly a game that has never truly stopped growing and the community is just amazing.
Also shady as feth in the end game stages.... lol.


Alliances were a new feature when I was playing. I was around for the release of player owned stations too. I was in a pirate corp called Sniggerdly (as in snicker, the laughter, not the offensive slur) that was pretty well known. It was in Pandemic Legion near the end of when I was playing. We generally disdained alliances for being big and clunky, so it took a long time for one to come along that we'd join. We did a lot of contracts to harass alliances. So lots of time in 0.0 flying around to shut down all their mining, etc. But since we were mercs, we often got hired by the people we were fighting as that was the easiest way to get rid of us. I remember when Goon swarm was first established. Fought against and on their side them several times each.

Always 1 on the crazed roll. 
   
Made in ca
Legendary Master of the Chapter





 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here


Same here, but now I'm out of grey paint...


I've got some paints I'm running short of, luckly GW delivers to your door and I've got some stuff I'll be ordering soon so I can just toss a paint order in there with my other stuff

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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two 
   
Made in us
Savage Khorne Berserker Biker





Ohio

I'm attempting to get painting done. But spring cleaning is taking precident. I'm also getting plenty of hours at work still. Don't know for how long as we've already restricted our hours of operation.
   
Made in de
Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries



Bonn

Is Vassal still a thing? had some games in 5th edition. Was quite fun...

Fluff for the fluff-gods! 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





Tabletop Simulator.

But there still seems to be lots of tournaments being run by irresponsible people, too.

   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut





I'll be getting my Kharadon Overlords/Tempest's Eye army painted up, myself. Really excited to paint something completely different from 40k style stuff. I really enjoyed painting my wife's Seraphon, as Contrast paints are friggin amazing for those scaly surfaces.
   
Made in ru
!!Goffik Rocker!!






Tabletop Simulator. You can continue playing tabletop 40k online.
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran




Annandale, VA

Tabletop Simulator works great. There's a community for it on Discord where you can find the 3D assets for 40K. You can also find opponents there as well.

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Made in dk
Discriminating Deathmark Assassin






There are over 3000 people online on the largest Discord TTS community, of those 160 are very active in the chat rooms and/or regularly play 40k on TTS, there are also over 3500 offline. There are 1-10 games being played on the server at any given time. There are currently more than 50 games of 40k being played on TTS. Total Reddit subscribers has been rising steadily, no Corona-bump as far as I can see.

Basement gaming should be doing fine right now, don't know if Warhammer stores are shutting down, probably not in the UK if they're still being lacks. Some bigger gaming communities are probably shutting down, in Denmark we can't congregate more than 10 people together.

Vassal 40k is pretty far from the real deal and I see very little reason to try it out, I'd rather play against myself if I had no opponents, TTS gets a lot closer but it's not a perfect replacement either. Try and get your regular opponents to play TTS as well so it's not just strangers you're playing with, that'll probably make the experience more smooth. You also have connection and voice issues that you hopefully don't have in real life.

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Made in us
Preacher of the Emperor





St. Louis, Missouri USA

 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.
This is the way.

 
   
Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut





I miss EvE, but I just don't have the time for it these days.



Yes, I know this hobby can be time consuming, but I do most my hobbying while sitting through lectures, it keeps my hands busy while I learn.


Eve takes a lot of work just to play.
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






I miss EvE because Hilmar killed the soul of the game on the Altar of Microtransactions and Popular Appeal, sanding off the rough edges until nothing remained (The final straw that broke the camels back was the Instanced PvE Dungeons, something entirely antithetical to the ethos of EvE as a whole). It was a fun 14 years x2 accounts but at the end of the day I just couldn't support the company in good faith after selling out to a Korean MMO company.

Anyway, TTS is great, especially if you live in the middle of nowhere like myself.

Add me on Discord: BaconCatBug#0294 +++++List of "broken" RaW in Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
+++++List of documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
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 deviantduck wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.
This is the way.


What pile of shame?

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
Made in ch
Revered Rogue Psyker





 Jidmah wrote:
 deviantduck wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.
This is the way.


What pile of shame?


The one i found in a cardboard boxinfront off my door.

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_______________________________

Who would win:
10'000 + years of veterancy, or some raidy Boys?
Trick Question, of course it's the loyalists!

(Not Online in regards to the new Red Corsair battalion CP boost and 8th edition.) 
   
Made in de
Waaagh! Ork Warboss on Warbike






Not Online!!! wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:
 deviantduck wrote:
 Eldarain wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
I'm working on eliminating my pile of shame here

This is the way.
This is the way.


What pile of shame?


The one i found in a cardboard boxinfront off my door.


Oh, that one. Sadly, it's not up for pre-order yet.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut





 BaconCatBug wrote:
I miss EvE because Hilmar killed the soul of the game on the Altar of Microtransactions and Popular Appeal, sanding off the rough edges until nothing remained (The final straw that broke the camels back was the Instanced PvE Dungeons, something entirely antithetical to the ethos of EvE as a whole). It was a fun 14 years x2 accounts but at the end of the day I just couldn't support the company in good faith after selling out to a Korean MMO company.

Anyway, TTS is great, especially if you live in the middle of nowhere like myself.

this, and a bunch of other gakky decisions. Fozzie removing the 2/10 plexes and other pvp hotspots from low sec because of a HIGH SEC farming problem like feth sake
   
Made in gb
Norn Queen






Fozzie was just incompetent, Hilmar was outright malicious.

I hang around on the main TTS discord (the one on the subreddit) so if anyone has any questions feel free to ping me on Discord.

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Add me on Discord: BaconCatBug#0294 +++++List of "broken" RaW in Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
+++++List of documents required to play Warhammer 40,000 8th edition+++++
Disclaimer: My YMDC answers are from a "What the rules, as written (or modified by Special Snowflake FAQ) in the rulebooks, actually say" perspective, not a "What I wish the rules said" perspective. Even GW agrees with me, send an email to 40kfaq@gwplc.com for a confirmation reply "4. Apply The Rules As Written. If you still don’t have a satisfactory answer, use the rule just as it is written if you possibly can, even if you are not completely happy with the effect the rule has."
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine




The Void

 BaconCatBug wrote:
I miss EvE because Hilmar killed the soul of the game on the Altar of Microtransactions and Popular Appeal, sanding off the rough edges until nothing remained (The final straw that broke the camels back was the Instanced PvE Dungeons, something entirely antithetical to the ethos of EvE as a whole). It was a fun 14 years x2 accounts but at the end of the day I just couldn't support the company in good faith after selling out to a Korean MMO company.

Anyway, TTS is great, especially if you live in the middle of nowhere like myself.


Personally, I think Interdictors killed it. They destroyed the possibility of flying solo or small groups in 0 sec space. Up until that point, you always had some amount of choice on if you fought or not. If you were in a fast enough ship, you could basically always avoid combat, even in the worst case scenario of jumping into a blockade. It meant that a big alliance couldn't stop an interceptor with just raw numbers of inexperienced pilots. You could always blockade out cruisers and larger, but you had to deal with frigs on their terms. They had to actually have their own decent interceptor pilots who could go dogfight an intruder. But Interdictors killed that element. With them, skill doesn't matter, preparation doesn't matter, the ship you're in barely matters. All that matters is if you jumped into an interdictor sphere or not. It added an instant death element to the game that never existed before, and it ruined piracy and skirmishing. I had been planning to quit EvE when I did anyway due to school, but Interdictors made it an easier thing to do.


Always 1 on the crazed roll. 
   
Made in au
Regular Dakkanaut





 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
 BaconCatBug wrote:
I miss EvE because Hilmar killed the soul of the game on the Altar of Microtransactions and Popular Appeal, sanding off the rough edges until nothing remained (The final straw that broke the camels back was the Instanced PvE Dungeons, something entirely antithetical to the ethos of EvE as a whole). It was a fun 14 years x2 accounts but at the end of the day I just couldn't support the company in good faith after selling out to a Korean MMO company.

Anyway, TTS is great, especially if you live in the middle of nowhere like myself.


Personally, I think Interdictors killed it. They destroyed the possibility of flying solo or small groups in 0 sec space. Up until that point, you always had some amount of choice on if you fought or not. If you were in a fast enough ship, you could basically always avoid combat, even in the worst case scenario of jumping into a blockade. It meant that a big alliance couldn't stop an interceptor with just raw numbers of inexperienced pilots. You could always blockade out cruisers and larger, but you had to deal with frigs on their terms. They had to actually have their own decent interceptor pilots who could go dogfight an intruder. But Interdictors killed that element. With them, skill doesn't matter, preparation doesn't matter, the ship you're in barely matters. All that matters is if you jumped into an interdictor sphere or not. It added an instant death element to the game that never existed before, and it ruined piracy and skirmishing. I had been planning to quit EvE when I did anyway due to school, but Interdictors made it an easier thing to do.



Being able to be completely safe in EvE is not a good thing. Interdictors were a great addition. Let's not pretend any amount of "skilled interceptor pilots!" is actually enough to catch someone who knows what they are doing. Regardless, they changed it back now anyway, Sceptors warp straight through bubbles so yeah your fast ships for complete safety are fine, oh and look every second +1 is a solo Ceptor and the game is in the worst shape it's ever been.
   
 
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