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Made in ca
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada

Where the project is at Right Now:

***DONE!!!***




Please see below as a step by step account of the build

OK, I have a friend who has given me a very generous gift of a 3D printed proxy model of a "Wardog" Titan.
I got a large box of "desiccated" plastic (fan was a spare bit).
It is about 11" tall and he printed it on an Upgraded Printrbot Play, the turbolasers were printed on the Flashforge Creator 3 dual head printer, material is PLA+ "Green".


My hand model is printing the back plate for his next project, there is a door for a 40k miniature to fit through supposedly, be afraid.

He has worked very hard on getting insanely good at his printing and I am beginning to learn what I can from him BUT this is about putting together these larger projects, I am the guy who likes putting things together.
A fun surprise was getting a bunch of movement trays. He said he had some "issues with scaling" on some of them.


The bad fit ones were purged for heresy.

So the build begins here:


I started adding stuff from the extensive bits box, you can see them in grey.
A word on gluing: sand the surfaces on both pieces rather roughly.
My glue of choice for this is:


Why you ask? Because it bonds stronger than polystyrene:
Yeah, I got too fancy and the part I added looked like hot garbage so for "fun" I pried it off with channel-locks rather than a knife (the other side I did that properly).
So, failure within the material, not the bond = really good glue.
<edit> Found out for PLA can be bonded with "acetylene" works like superglue, very fast and would be a "proper" weld.
Will try this later for the big project coming up.
Friction weld works, print up some rods and spin them in a dremel tool.
A "Crafty Pen" could be used as a welder and/or filler.<edit-end>

Now, I used a couple fillers that are solvent based and they shrank, alot.
3D prints need some pretty big gaps filled so after much research and seeing the results of what my friend uses the best for 3D print (I think) is this:

"Deluxe Perfect Plastic Putty"
It smooths on with a whetted finger and does not shrink and no nasty solvent smell, much win with that stuff.
I find it sands well too.

So you will see some horrific looking filling later-on, I just thought I would get this out now.

So, assembly, note the "hot garbage part"


A note on carving holes into PLA parts (for my magnets).
Ideally, model them in, the stuff is pretty darn hard and any high speed anything will melt the plastic (again) and make a real mess of things.
I used a dremel with a cutting head (on the lowest speed!), it does a strange combination of removal and pushing the material around, you can easily cut it out later.
It appears my printing friend likes to run the wall thickness a bit thicker and go for less support inside, I was seeing around a 1/4" lattice inside.
I put in a fair bit of glue and the rare earth magnets are going nowhere.

I will stop here for a moment, I have progressed a fair bit further but it took me till now to take the time to get my stuff together.
I was posting progress to my friend as a way of thanks for the gift.

I searched Dakka and did not find much on 3D print builds, anyone with more experience I would be happy to hear from them here (this is my first 3D print build).
BUT I have built models for some 3 decades plus and I still keep finding all kinds of new ways of doing things... wonderful times we live in... other than that virus thing.


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Continuing on then:

So filling going on here, the solvent based stuff was not ideal but it did fill some "holes" here and there.
I find the "grain" with this material is hard to sand down and smoothing on a filler between the grains may be better.
<edit>NOTE: I would strongly recommend sanding ALL surfaces.
There are a multitude of strands/strings from any nozzle travel and it only helps with adhesion of parts (assembly) and paint (tooth / more surface area to bond to). <edit end>


This will not be pretty, but the beast then is assembled with an ill-conceived acetone paint-on: PLA+ does not respond at all to acetone, but my filler did to some degree.
See the frist pic for scale:






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Now I figured the dog needed a base to rest on so I cut out a 9" disk from some old plastic ceiling tile I had got (my work replaced it since it was too sound reflective).
Scored multiple times with knife, dremel sand the circumference, hand sand the edge again for a more even circle.
Sand surfaces, sand bottom of titan's feet and glue down.
Add models and bits to surface and then completely glue and then gravel the base and let dry: ready to prime.

I probably should have used a Krylon Plastic specific "bonding" paint but I used Rustileum 2x Ultracover Canyon black satin:



So that worked out ok BUT, it really highlights the poor job of filling all the various grains on the part.
A more detail obscuring paint as filler would have actually helped this.
This is a perfect time to hunt for filament strands you missed and "lumpy bits", you will see them soon enough on this model.
Cut / shave / sand and then hit it with the primer again, it will not hurt anything.


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PAINT!!!

I could say what was used for colour, I was using GW paint and Liquitex and adding Airbrush Medium so I could spray.

I use the Badger Patriot 105 and the Sotar 20/20... badly at that.
So, some 15psi and my paints mixed in dropper bottles, I start spraying:


A ton of cleanup to do, I really must use masking much more than I do.


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So this is where I am at now:

I have broken out the hairy brush (which I am much better with) and started fixing all kinds of things.
I may need quite a few days working on it.
This I would still consider largely "block painting" with a little bit of some highlights.

I will have to be VERY careful with shade paint since the grain is very much all over this part.

For a learning model it has done it's job.
I am/have suffered through my mistakes and I will still get a very good model out of this in the end, it will just take longer than if done correctly.

I did not initially like this iteration of this proxy Warhound BUT it has grown on me after hours (days / weeks??) of working on it.
It is also not an attempt at a full copy so it would not readily be confused for the real thing.

BTW my paint configuration is to be for the "Legio Ignatum" Titans.
I will have to see what I can do for the various markings later.



BTW at this point I decided to weigh it "2 lbs 2.6oz", I shudder to think what resin would weigh.

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Made in ca
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada

Done a bit more fixing and Highlighting:


Shading will be next after a bit more detailing, the gun arms need it a lot.

A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte 
   
Made in ca
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada

A bit more painting and shading:

A revolution is an idea which has found its bayonets.
Napoleon Bonaparte 
   
Made in ca
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada


Pretty much ready, just want to stencil the Titanicus, Mechanicus and Fire Wasps logos on but everything else is done.

So, contacted Slinky to see if I could use his cleaned up Firewasp logo and he agreed, when all is said and done it lead to the creation of this decal:

Doing some layout on the model and going to stencil and paint the locations under these before applying the decals.

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UK

Oh, those decals came out beautifully!

And the finished result is amazing - Bravo!

   
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So what would you say the cost is to do this compared to buying an insanely costed FW one? The amount of parts going into the printer can’t be too cheap, right?

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I dont know what the printers cost, but if the overall.weight of the model is just over 2lb, or about 1kg, then the minimum filament cost would be about a single spool, or about £15 for middle of the road product. Allowing for a lot of wastage and supports and stuff would push that up.

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Made in ca
Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought





Canada

My friend is ever becoming the expert, he is now using a dual head printer and is using a water dissolving filament for supports which makes the cleanup so much more civilized.
About $30 in materials for him, slicer and plate leveling know-how and drying equipment = "priceless".

I was very surprised where I hit the model with a spray-on painting resin: it actually made the paint job look better (this is after the posted pictures). I am using that kind of stuff from now-on.
After the fact, I found out art professionals use the stuff because it brings out the colour better (and it is getting really darn hard, was a bit tacky for the first 12 hours).

Slinky: Thanks! I tend to use decals as a template: I painted on those rather heavily but they preserve those nice sharp edges needed.
I did use another print on paper I used it as a template to cut some painters tape and lay down the white and yellow for all the decals prior to laying them down.
My decal set liquid was a bit aggressive and my first try on putting the Firewasp logo stuck down hard way too fast... I used some water with it to give me more time to maneuver on the second try.
I keep forgetting how much I loved/hated this element of the build: they look incredible when on and done right but are a royal source of pain and worry while trying to get them down.

I have a few decal set liquid, never hurts to try on spare decals from the same card: I had one utterly melt a set once but gave no issues to other ones... differing materials I would never know about I would guess.

To be clear, I could NEVER justify buying a FW kit of similar type, divorce would be swift spending some ~$1000 on a model.
Plus I really do not like their resin, it is heavy as heck and feels just... weak to me.
This plastic is really darn hard, brutal to sand down by hand (no high speed friction or it melts!) better off to fill most areas to get smooth surfaces.
I still want to experiment with maximum temperature, I am told no leaving this thing in a hot car in the summer.

BTW I would think the 9" base with all the sand on it would account for about 1/5-1/4 of a pound which was not printed but using "found" material, hardboard sealed well on all sides would work well too.
The inside of the prints were very aggressively printed with the least amount of support inside leaning toward the outside walls made thicker for durability, it was a real good choice I think.

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