Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I was looking at stats and saw the land raider Achilles. it has the same problems with it as most land raiders, mostly too expensive and not enough durability but the Achilles is different because of its 4++. I was wondering if the combo of the Achilles and chronus would be good or if it’s still not enough to overcome the land raiders problems.

A 2+ 4++, 14w, non-degrading bs 2+, character with a thunder fire cannon and 2 twin multi meltas that regains wounds seems pretty good to me even with the high point cost.

It costs 355pts with chronus. Is it still too high a cost to be viable? I’m mostly wondering if that between the invulnerable save, the character targeting rules and the non degrading ballistics skill if it’s durable enough to be good.

 aton wrote:
I was looking at stats and saw the land raider Achilles. it has the same problems with it as most land raiders, mostly too expensive and not enough durability but the Achilles is different because of its 4++. I was wondering if the combo of the Achilles and chronus would be good or if it’s still not enough to overcome the land raiders problems.

A 2+ 4++, 14w, non-degrading bs 2+, character with a thunder fire cannon and 2 twin multi meltas that regains wounds seems pretty good to me even with the high point cost.

It costs 355pts with chronus. Is it still too high a cost to be viable? I’m mostly wondering if that between the invulnerable save, the character targeting rules and the non degrading ballistics skill if it’s durable enough to be good.

Character Targeting Rules apply to characters of W9 and less.

At 10 Wounds, you can be targeted freely.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 aton wrote:
I was looking at stats and saw the land raider Achilles. it has the same problems with it as most land raiders, mostly too expensive and not enough durability but the Achilles is different because of its 4++. I was wondering if the combo of the Achilles and chronus would be good or if it’s still not enough to overcome the land raiders problems.

A 2+ 4++, 14w, non-degrading bs 2+, character with a thunder fire cannon and 2 twin multi meltas that regains wounds seems pretty good to me even with the high point cost.

It costs 355pts with chronus. Is it still too high a cost to be viable? I’m mostly wondering if that between the invulnerable save, the character targeting rules and the non degrading ballistics skill if it’s durable enough to be good.

Character Targeting Rules apply to characters of W9 and less.

At 10 Wounds, you can be targeted freely.

Well... that scraps that idea...

Side note, nothing in the rules says that the vehicle gains the CHARACTER keyword. Chronus and the vehicle wouldnt be protected by the character targeting rule, even if he is in a vehicle with 9 or less wounds, like a land speeder, if thats even possible.

And conversely wouldn't be at more risk when fighting Raven Guard.