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Following the threat about the 10 VP for fully painted armies I have another question just out of curiosity:

How much of your average army would not meet a battle ready standard? So completely build and painted with at least 3 different colors. Assume that plain unicolored or transparent bases are Ok.

With average army I mean, what you would field on a normal gaming day, so you don't have to count unfinished models, if you wouldn't field them until they are battleready. Simultaneously pure showcasepieces also don't count for the percentage, just what you would really put on the table.

On a final note: I'm really just curious and don't want this to become some sort of shaming contest, so please don't judge or belittle each other.

I have never fielded an unpainted model in 30 years.

Interested to see how this pans out, I answered based on my whole collection (less than 25%) but in a game it's rare that even 10% is unpainted atm.

I never field unpainted models, period.

But I often play against my friends who do field unpainted models. I don't begrudge them this, though I have been gently encouraging them over the past 9 years or so to paint their models - lately they've been making good progress so our games (once lockdown is over) will look far more colourful.

I play with grey hordes. I have no shame to admit it. Not because I'm a meta chaser or something.

I have a couple of 2.000 armies fully painted but normally after painting them on 2-3 days and going to a big tournament I grow a little sick of them and then start playing other stuff.

For example that happened with my minotaur-khorne aos army, since painting it and going to a tournament with it (And finishing last in a 60 man tournament) I have been playing ogres.
In 40k, with my dark angels, after painting them and playing them in a 150 man tournament 2 years ago I have yet to play them again, I play custodes and tau now.

Battle ready means base, shade, technical or contrast, technical. If you drybrush, not battle ready, if you edge highlight, not battle ready, if you base and shade, but dont use technical, not battle ready. If you use layer, not battle ready.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

All my models are painted, but no model is painted battle ready.

I've voted 0% simply because if a model is not painted, I don't consider it part of my army, yet.

While I enjoy an immersive game with proper terrain and all models painted, I have zero issues if my opponent fields unpainted models.

Depends on what battle ready means and how many colours it requires. If 4-5 colours is enough, then my only unpainted models are 5 strikes. If painted means using 20+paints on a single model, then my whole army is unpainted.

I don't field anything that isn't fully painted, so my army is 100% battle ready.

That's not to say I don't have unpainted stuff, but that is either till on sprues, or in the process of being painted.

@ p5freak: Thankfully the Warhammer Community article does not prescribe rules. Nowhere does this feature in the new rulebook, and nor does it hold itself out as an FAQ or errata or similar.

At most it's one description of what it means to be 'Battle Ready'. But it's not exhaustive or all that authoritative.

Between 50 and 75% of the models I play are unpainted. That said, I paint a lot. The problem is that I paint 6 different armies at the same time, and that I never field the same list 2 times. I like to change.

I also cannot concentrate on a single army at a time, since I constantly switch subjects to keep my motivation up. Now a Dark angel squad, now some sisters, now a Troglodon, now maybe I'll try those Lumineth...

As a consequence, most of my armies are grey.

 p5freak wrote:
Battle ready means base, shade, technical or contrast, technical. If you drybrush, not battle ready, if you edge highlight, not battle ready, if you base and shade, but dont use technical, not battle ready. If you use layer, not battle ready.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

All my models are painted, but no model is painted battle ready.

That is such a weird definition. There are alot more possible methods of painting and especially basing. I cant wait to hear the waac people whining my minis bases are decorated with sand and plaster instead of an official gw technichal paint, and deny me the 10 points. Jeebus...

 p5freak wrote:
Battle ready means base, shade, technical or contrast, technical. If you drybrush, not battle ready, if you edge highlight, not battle ready, if you base and shade, but dont use technical, not battle ready. If you use layer, not battle ready.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

All my models are painted, but no model is painted battle ready.

Ah missed that. In that case, as I don't have any shades, bases or contrast paint used on models that were painted before contrast paints existed 100% of my army is not painted.

I don't even know what a technical is. One stupid rule if I ever saw one. Also love the , it doesn't create a barrier for entery, but forget to say you get a 10pts handicap if you army isn't painted.

@p5freak and others: that's why I specifically described what should be called battle ready for the sake of this poll:

Completely build, at least three colors, plain/unicolored/transparent bases count as battle ready the same way fully textured ones count.

So please just use this definition and don't fixate on online articles and other external sources.

 p5freak wrote:
Battle ready means base, shade, technical or contrast, technical. If you drybrush, not battle ready, if you edge highlight, not battle ready, if you base and shade, but dont use technical, not battle ready. If you use layer, not battle ready.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

All my models are painted, but no model is painted battle ready.

Haha. Well, I have many models that don't have a single GW paint on them, so...

I'm normally under 10%, frequently closer to fully painted. Occasionally I'll swap in a model or unit that isn't quite ready just to change the tabletop a little or to try new things. I clicked on < 25% because I have a bit of a backlog still, but normally those units don't get fielded.

I have a full battle ready army and just a couple of battle ready squads of another. When Indomitus hits I'll have to pause that army painting to add those models to my already done primaris battle ready force.

100% of my army is not battle ready. I field the grey hoard. I play this game to bs around with friends and find no enjoy in painting ( in fact when I did paint some models, I was miserable the entire time ).

The text on the WarCom link says:
"Battle Ready models have their main areas coloured and an simple finish on their bases."
That's it.

100% painted and based except for very rare circumstances. Maybe once a year I'm trying something out and don't have all my models painted.

But that was not the original question. Please don't turn this into a discussion about the definition of battle ready and just answer in relation to the definition I gave for the poll. If you want to discuss definitions feel free to created a separate topic.

Edit: this referred to Crispy78

Probably only half my of my old sisters of battle - most of the 'in use' the models are painted but not all of them are based and a significant number don't have backpacks (because painting a hundred metal backpacks and 50+ wings for seraphim keeps falling down my list).

All of my talons and mechanicum (as they were bought as painting projects).

Next to none of my old daemonhunters. Painting just wasn't as important to be when I started playing again, and just having a suitable model was a step up from a proxy drinks can dreadnought sitting on a cardboard box building.

Very few models in my armies are battle ready.

Not least because even the models I have spent the most time and effort on still don't conform due to GW's ridiculously arbitrary basing requirements.

All I will say is that this rule in no way makes me inclined to paint more.

Usually I have two or three units in my collection per army that are unpainted, and I don't get to painting them until I start using them. Once I'm using them, they get painted in short order. Here's my current pile of shame:

- 2 squads of GSC bikers
- 2 squads of Chaos Cultists
- 1 harlequin player (single model)
- 2 Carnifexes, 1 Tyrannocyte, 20 Termagants

As of last week my entire collection is painted to (at least, what I consider to be) an adequate battle ready standard. Currently a little short on cash to get more, so it'll be that way for a while.

I would typically not field an unpainted model either way, unless I just bought it and was too excited to try it out before it was ready!

 p5freak wrote:
Battle ready means base, shade, technical or contrast, technical. If you drybrush, not battle ready, if you edge highlight, not battle ready, if you base and shade, but dont use technical, not battle ready. If you use layer, not battle ready.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

All my models are painted, but no model is painted battle ready.

Incorrect.

Battle Ready models have their main areas coloured and an <sic> simple finish on their bases.

The painting methods shown give examples of how you would attain battle-ready status; at no point does it imply these methods are intended to be exhaustive.

For my armies, generally around 25-50% of my models are done, but my AoS Gloomspite are closer to 75% done. I tend to dip in and out of projects and a lot of my painting time is spent on D&D models rather than my 40K / AoS forces, so it really depends a lot on motivation and what I'm focusing on.

My army isn't even all the way built yet. Ya'll mighta been on quarantine but I was on overtime.


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Crispy78 wrote:
The text on the WarCom link says:
"Battle Ready models have their main areas coloured and an simple finish on their bases."
That's it.

So if you have a complex finish on your base, it no longer qualifies. Got it.

ERJAK wrote:
My army isn't even all the way built yet. Ya'll mighta been on quarantine but I was on overtime.


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Crispy78 wrote:
The text on the WarCom link says:
"Battle Ready models have their main areas coloured and an simple finish on their bases."
That's it.

So if you have a complex finish on your base, it no longer qualifies. Got it.

Bear in mind that even on a beautiful, multi-layered scenic base, just painting the rim in a solid colour would be a "simple finish".

Most of my armies are almost completely unpainted.

Aelyn wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Battle ready means base, shade, technical or contrast, technical. If you drybrush, not battle ready, if you edge highlight, not battle ready, if you base and shade, but dont use technical, not battle ready. If you use layer, not battle ready.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

All my models are painted, but no model is painted battle ready.

Incorrect.

Battle Ready models have their main areas coloured and an <sic> simple finish on their bases.

The painting methods shown give examples of how you would attain battle-ready status; at no point does it imply these methods are intended to be exhaustive.

For my armies, generally around 25-50% of my models are done, but my AoS Gloomspite are closer to 75% done. I tend to dip in and out of projects and a lot of my painting time is spent on D&D models rather than my 40K / AoS forces, so it really depends a lot on motivation and what I'm focusing on.

As other have said, WC articles arent rules. We have to wait what the rules say about battle ready painted. But i doubt they will say anything about it.