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Fixture of Dakka





Denison, Iowa

I didn't come up with this, just read it on a facebook group. Inquisitors and assassins can be included in an Imperial army without ruining their battleforged status or their special rules. Some Custodes special rules are slightly different to most armies, they DON'T apply just to Custodes. They apply to any Infantry or Bike unit in a Battleforge Custodes army. As far as I can tell the Inquisitors and assassins meet all the prerequisites (Infantry, Custodes force, Battleforged). Anyone seeing a problem with buffing their invulnerable saves and giving them Objective Secured? Frankly I kind of laugh at the idea of an Eversor assassin claiming an objective with a 3++ save.
   
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Damsel of the Lady




I believe this came up once before and RAW they should get it. RAI who knows.
   
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/30/789381.page#10838774 Previous discussion.

It's also able to be argued that including an Assassin in a detachment isn't legal in the Eternal War missions. While an Assassin might not break the detachment trait, the detachment still becomes an IMPERIUM detachment, which isn't legal in Eternal War.
   
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And this is no longer by RAW possible>

"*Page 72 – Detachment AbilitiesChange the text below to read:‘If your army is Battle-forged, all Adeptus Custodes Infantry and Adeptus Custodes Biker units in Adeptus Custodes Detachments gain the Sworn Guardians and the Emperor’s Chosen abilities.’"
   
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Brisbane

*EDIT*

Ah what's the damn point, I'm dealing with the same blockhead below again...

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2020/07/28 14:52:41


I will not rest until the Tabletop Imperial Guard has been reduced to complete mediocrity. This is completely reflected in the lore. 
   
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Iowa

 Slayer6 wrote:
The exact same thing happens with Commissars and Auxiliaries in a Tempestus Detachment. RAW says that every unit must be Tempestus, but it also says there are exceptions to other regiments. RAI would imply that a Tempestus force can ONLY be made up of 3 different datasheets: Scion Squads, Primes, Command Squads. Adding a Commissar to the mix means they lose their special regimental bonuses. There is no difference for the RAI vs RAW here, they are exactly the same.

If your force includes something that does not share the same keywords when the requirement for that force's bonus states 'EVERY UNIT', then you don't have an argument to stand on.

That’s incorrect and don’t bring it up here. This thread is really necessary anymore, is it?

If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed. 
   
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Brisbane

 Apple Peel wrote:
 Slayer6 wrote:
The exact same thing happens with Commissars and Auxiliaries in a Tempestus Detachment. RAW says that every unit must be Tempestus, but it also says there are exceptions to other regiments. RAI would imply that a Tempestus force can ONLY be made up of 3 different datasheets: Scion Squads, Primes, Command Squads. Adding a Commissar to the mix means they lose their special regimental bonuses. There is no difference for the RAI vs RAW here, they are exactly the same.

If your force includes something that does not share the same keywords when the requirement for that force's bonus states 'EVERY UNIT', then you don't have an argument to stand on.

That’s incorrect and don’t bring it up here. This thread is really necessary anymore, is it?


It's being used as an example for a similar situation. If you don't like it, use the report function.

*EDIT* Removed - Rule #1 please

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2020/07/28 16:04:24


I will not rest until the Tabletop Imperial Guard has been reduced to complete mediocrity. This is completely reflected in the lore. 
   
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Iowa

 Slayer6 wrote:
 Apple Peel wrote:
 Slayer6 wrote:
The exact same thing happens with Commissars and Auxiliaries in a Tempestus Detachment. RAW says that every unit must be Tempestus, but it also says there are exceptions to other regiments. RAI would imply that a Tempestus force can ONLY be made up of 3 different datasheets: Scion Squads, Primes, Command Squads. Adding a Commissar to the mix means they lose their special regimental bonuses. There is no difference for the RAI vs RAW here, they are exactly the same.

If your force includes something that does not share the same keywords when the requirement for that force's bonus states 'EVERY UNIT', then you don't have an argument to stand on.

That’s incorrect and don’t bring it up here. This thread is really necessary anymore, is it?


It's being used as an example for a similar situation. If you don't like it, use the report function.

*EDIT* Removed - Rule #1 please

Except that it’s an incorrect comparison. So it’s not relevant nor is this thread really necessary now.

If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed. 
   
 
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