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EDIT: GW done fixed it.

Spoiler:
I would encourage all players to send a message to GW about this - in your words or mine.

Dear GW,

You recently released the FAQ for Saga of the Beast. Contained within it was a correction for how Orks are capable of acquiring "Kustom Jobs". It unambiguously states that we are required to have a Mek Boy Workshop in our army to be able to use Kustom Jobs.

But in your preview articles you very plainly stated that we could get Kustom Jobs without a Mek Boy Workshop. I find this appallingly deceptive since a driving cause of my purchases (and others I'm sure) is through these articles.

I understand that the book itself was less ambiguous, but you have left us in a very uncomfortable position where Orks are the only army forced to buy a $48 to use a large portion of the rules. If you feel as though Kustom Jobs need an extra cost to balance the ability then may I suggest 2CP for the first job if you do not have a Mek Boy Workshop?

Forcing us to buy this model and to place it in our deployment zone with extremely unfavorable terrain rules creates a massive hindrance to our enjoyment on many levels.

I urge you to reconsider your decision.

See evidence here:
https://imgur.com/CIfQvLT.png

Sincerely,

A Concerned Fan

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Good idea. I hope non-Ork players can appreciate how much horsegak this actually is and will email in as well.
   
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Should likely post this to their FB page
   
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Rest easy, fix is coming per FB comment.

   
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"...forced to buy a $48 to use..."

I think you missed an important bit there, Daed.

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 Dysartes wrote:
"...forced to buy a $48 to use..."

I think you missed an important bit there, Daed.


Whatever the case it seems the issue is resolved.

   
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So with this fixed, the FAQ is a straight buff for Orks, right, just from the Kustom battlewagon weapons officially counting towards the double shot ability?

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
So with this fixed, the FAQ is a straight buff for Orks, right, just from the Kustom battlewagon weapons officially counting towards the double shot ability?


Big mek with KFF got nerfed.

Ghaz certainly got better and Da Boomer was clarified, but everyone double tapped with it anyway.

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Yea the KFF nerf sucks, but I admit being greedy on that one.

   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
Yea the KFF nerf sucks, but I admit being greedy on that one.


I'm out of the loop (as most of us are probably) what was the nerf to the KFF?
   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
Yea the KFF nerf sucks, but I admit being greedy on that one.


KFF mek shouldn't apply to CC.

Like 30 years of precedent. It blocks bullets.

We have confirmed that they didn't intend to give us a 20 point discount as well 80 point KFF is coming.

At least it's no longer a clanist field.
   
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Yeah, while KFF working in combat was a mistake and I can totally accept fixing it, the +20 points price hike (+37% than 8th price) is no joke.

Now the KFF doesn't work in combat, doesn't provide invuln for units from different clans and it's 15ppm more expensive. That's why he got nerfed, but even with the changes, at 75 points, getting an additional wound at 80, is still a competitive choice.

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tulun wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
Yea the KFF nerf sucks, but I admit being greedy on that one.


KFF mek shouldn't apply to CC.

Like 30 years of precedent. It blocks bullets.

We have confirmed that they didn't intend to give us a 20 point discount as well 80 point KFF is coming.

At least it's no longer a clanist field.


The FAQ rules still don't require the wargear item and the datasheet still has no way to acquire said wargear. The costs including wargear remain the same as the costs excluding wargear.

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 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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His point is dont' expect current 60 pts to stay. It will become 80 pts when CA faq comes out

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Actually, his most recent points are 75

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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In Saga book. You use most recent book though. Remind me. Which came later? Saga or Chapter approved? Hard to remember.

75 pts is also 8e points...80 would be 9e points.

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I'm chuffed with them changing the KFF back. Makes it work like it should, and it's consistent with all the others again.
   
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tneva82 wrote:
In Saga book. You use most recent book though. Remind me. Which came later? Saga or Chapter approved? Hard to remember.

75 pts is also 8e points...80 would be 9e points.


Saga FAQ is a 9th edition document and the most recent source.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
SemperMortis wrote:
Yes, because everyone lines up on the deployment line when facing off against orkz, especially when said orkz are fielding 3 Bonebreakers...which rely exclusively on getting into CC to inflict any kind of actual harm. All of your arguments rely upon your opponent being a brain dead muppet who just lets you maul him.


Yea...that's called board control.
 
   
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tulun wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
Yea the KFF nerf sucks, but I admit being greedy on that one.


KFF mek shouldn't apply to CC.


I know, but like I said... I'm greedy.

   
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 Jidmah wrote:
Actually, his most recent points are 75


You don't use the points cost in Saga of the Beast anymore.

So the fact it got changed to 75 is only relevant if you are playing 8th edition.

CA20 has it as 60 RAW.

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