Switch Theme:

Necron and Space Marine Codex and upcoming releases discussion  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





As the 9th edition thread has now been closed, thought I'd start a new thread for the rumours and discussion on the new Necron Codex and releases.

So, what we know so far, as far as I recall:

Codex release in October

Confirmed new models:

The Silent King
Monolith
The Void Dragon
Scenery Kit
Lokhust Heavy Destroyer
Doomstalker

There is also what looks like a new single character model just behind and to the left of the Monolith on the leaked (and then officially released) Necron group photo from a while back.

Based on the recent Warhammer Community post here (https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/28/beyond-indomitus-top-5-tips-for-expanding-your-necrons/) , sounds like the Skorpekh Destroyers are only going to be available as the easy to build versions in the starter sets for a while (it specifically mentions the Lokhust Heavy Destroyer as coming soon but just says you can get the Skorpekh Destroyers in the starter sets), I guess that also leaves the question over the Skorpekh Destroyer Lord as an individual release and whether the standard Lokhust Destroyers will get a new release (as they will be about the last remaining "green rod" model, it seems likely, possibly the same kit as the Heavy Destroyer).

Is there anything else we know of?

This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2020/08/10 20:51:56


 
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka




UK

I think that aongle character model is the ranged or alternate weapon version of the new three legged destroyer models

   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





 Overread wrote:
I think that aongle character model is the ranged or alternate weapon version of the new three legged destroyer models


I'm not sure, doesn't look quite right to me, and I get the impression that the Destroyers are going to be split into the ranged Lokhusts (floaty) and the close combat Skorpekhs (legs).
   
Made in fi
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Tavis75 wrote:
Lokhust Destroyer Lord


Article only specifically mentions lokhust heavy destroyer even showing picture. No word whatsoever about their lords. Only lords they mention is even more so than when in the presence of both their Lords for re-rolls on hit and wound rolls of 1. but there's already skorpek destroyer lord and destroyer lord. Risky business to start assuming there's another lord kit released when there's been no picture or even rumour of one.

12 factions for Lord of The Rings
4663
11772 pts(along with lots of unpainted unsorted stuff)
5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
Made in si
Steady Stonecleaver







Tavis75 wrote:

The Canoptek Reanimator style machine with a gun (most likely a dual kit with the Reanimator)


Absolutely not a dual kit. While they look very similar, the Doomstalker is significantly bigger.

Posters on ignore list: 33

40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.

Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





tneva82 wrote:
Tavis75 wrote:
Lokhust Destroyer Lord


Article only specifically mentions lokhust heavy destroyer even showing picture. No word whatsoever about their lords. Only lords they mention is even more so than when in the presence of both their Lords for re-rolls on hit and wound rolls of 1. but there's already skorpek destroyer lord and destroyer lord. Risky business to start assuming there's another lord kit released when there's been no picture or even rumour of one.


Ah yes, you're right, misread it and thought it was the Lord not the Heavy Destroyer.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Tavis75 wrote:

The Canoptek Reanimator style machine with a gun (most likely a dual kit with the Reanimator)


Absolutely not a dual kit. While they look very similar, the Doomstalker is significantly bigger.


Why do you think that, has there been more info? Looking at the photo it seems to be on the same size base as the Reanimator (based on the nearby Plasmancer and Destroyer which I assume are on 32 and 50 mm bases) and therefore looks to be roughly the same size.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/07/29 10:33:59


 
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block




Given the substantial size differences I cannot see the canoptek reanimator and Canoptek Doomstalker being a dual kit. It would be like a Knight and dreadnought being a dual kit.

From what we know, there is also the as yet unidentified model from the big image that came out early on who was hiding behind the monolith. There are rumours of a Skorpekh cryptek model as well. We must presume that the destroyer Lord will get a revamp to bring them in line with the updated Lokhust Destroyers.

I'm still holding out hope for revamped flayed ones too.
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




lord_blackfang wrote:
Tavis75 wrote:

The Canoptek Reanimator style machine with a gun (most likely a dual kit with the Reanimator)


Absolutely not a dual kit. While they look very similar, the Doomstalker is significantly bigger.


Necronmaniac05 wrote:Given the substantial size differences I cannot see the canoptek reanimator and Canoptek Doomstalker being a dual kit. It would be like a Knight and dreadnought being a dual kit.

From what we know, there is also the as yet unidentified model from the big image that came out early on who was hiding behind the monolith. There are rumours of a Skorpekh cryptek model as well. We must presume that the destroyer Lord will get a revamp to bring them in line with the updated Lokhust Destroyers.

I'm still holding out hope for revamped flayed ones too.


What picture are you guys basing this size difference off? Because from what I see.. there isn't any really, maybe different leg configuration change the height but the torso and faces etc look basically same.
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





GenRifDrake wrote:
What picture are you guys basing this size difference off? Because from what I see.. there isn't any really, maybe different leg configuration change the height but the torso and faces etc look basically same.


Same here, looking at the GW version of the leaked photo, it looks like the upper leg section of the Doomstalker are more upright than the Reanimator which might add half an inch to an inch to the height, but other than that they appear to be the same size, and the models are so similar it would be odd if they just made a big and small version of almost exactly the same thing.
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka




UK

The walker with the cannon might look taller too beacuse the gun segment sticks way out of the top. I too figure it will be a duel kit with the reanimator push fit likely going into a getting started set.

   
Made in gb
Multispectral Hsien





Gosport, UK

The doomstalker is on a bigger base, you can tell by the height of the rim relative to the diameter.
   
Made in nl
Regular Dakkanaut





GenRifDrake wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Tavis75 wrote:

The Canoptek Reanimator style machine with a gun (most likely a dual kit with the Reanimator)


Absolutely not a dual kit. While they look very similar, the Doomstalker is significantly bigger.


Necronmaniac05 wrote:Given the substantial size differences I cannot see the canoptek reanimator and Canoptek Doomstalker being a dual kit. It would be like a Knight and dreadnought being a dual kit.

From what we know, there is also the as yet unidentified model from the big image that came out early on who was hiding behind the monolith. There are rumours of a Skorpekh cryptek model as well. We must presume that the destroyer Lord will get a revamp to bring them in line with the updated Lokhust Destroyers.

I'm still holding out hope for revamped flayed ones too.


What picture are you guys basing this size difference off? Because from what I see.. there isn't any really, maybe different leg configuration change the height but the torso and faces etc look basically same.




This is the image we meant.

Spoiler:


Looks like some very big differences in just about every aspect. The head is way more inward. The legs are spread out more and longer and the base is way wider.
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka




UK

It is a different design, but it only look bigger on the first photo because of perspective distortion in the photo. Just the same as how the Silent King looks smaller because he is further back. Plius the cannon version is on a raised terrain feature

Even if it is not a duel kit, which would be surperising, they are clearly the same size classcand overallvdesign as each other.

   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut




Different base size sure but the leg configuration is different is why, could still easily be a dual-kit with such a similiar torso, just the Doomstalker has 1 leg configuration/setup, the Reanimator another and that'll dictate the base.
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Having seen the second picture with the white background now, they are more different than I thought, and it's definitely a bigger base. I do have to agree that the Doomstalker looks bigger, the apparent thickness of the cables on the lower leg in the picture gives a clue, as I imagine they're actually a similar thickness. The painting gives a clue as well.

So yep, probably not a dual kit, unless the standard version of the Reanimator is larger than the ETB version, but don't believe GW has ever done that before (other than very slight differences).
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Other option is that you can make both in the Doomstalker kit, and the reanimator version in Indomitus is a bit smaller for reasons.

Being slightly cynical, I'd sort of be hoping the codex completely re-does the reanimator, which doesn't seem on the cards.
Just seems a shame that such a cool model is reduced to "more expensive cryptek with no character defence".
   
Made in gb
Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut




 Overread wrote:
It is a different design, but it only look bigger on the first photo because of perspective distortion in the photo. Just the same as how the Silent King looks smaller because he is further back. Plius the cannon version is on a raised terrain feature

Even if it is not a duel kit, which would be surperising, they are clearly the same size classcand overallvdesign as each other.


The hip and leg structure is totally different, basically anything above the waist is similar at best, albeit shorter on the reanimator, the doomstalker has an extended torso with elevated plates and a shorter neck. There is no clear gun mount on reanimators chin either.

Add in the fact they're both easy to build and I'd hazard a guess they're almost a dead certain to be different kits.
   
Made in us
[DCM]
The World Killer.




The best State-Texas

They had them side by side in the video when the Doomstalker and Lokhust destroyers were initially unveiled. The Doomstalker is much taller than the reanimator.

4000+
6000+ Order. Unity. Obedience.
Thousand Sons 4000+
:Necron: Necron Discord: https://discord.com/invite/AGtpeD4  
   
Made in si
Steady Stonecleaver







GenRifDrake wrote:
Different base size sure but the leg configuration is different is why, could still easily be a dual-kit with such a similiar torso, just the Doomstalker has 1 leg configuration/setup, the Reanimator another and that'll dictate the base.


Yes, clearly this is a dual kit where only the base, the legs, the torso, the head and the weapons are different and all of the remaining 0 pieces are shared between the models.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/07/29 13:16:31


Posters on ignore list: 33

40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.

Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here
   
Made in nl
Regular Dakkanaut





 Sasori wrote:
They had them side by side in the video when the Doomstalker and Lokhust destroyers were initially unveiled. The Doomstalker is much taller than the reanimator.


I found what you were talking about.

Spoiler:
   
Made in no
[DCM]
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver





 lord_blackfang wrote:
GenRifDrake wrote:
Different base size sure but the leg configuration is different is why, could still easily be a dual-kit with such a similiar torso, just the Doomstalker has 1 leg configuration/setup, the Reanimator another and that'll dictate the base.


Yes, clearly this is a dual kit where only the base, the legs, the torso, the head and the weapons are different and all of the remaining 0 pieces are shared between the models.


Have an exalt.

Though I do believe the head actually is interchangeable

Shiny 40k 8th tool with colors: dice-hammer.com 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
The World Killer.




The best State-Texas

 Segersgia wrote:
 Sasori wrote:
They had them side by side in the video when the Doomstalker and Lokhust destroyers were initially unveiled. The Doomstalker is much taller than the reanimator.


I found what you were talking about.

Spoiler:



Yep, that's it.


They've also already said that the Doomstalker is an Easy to build kit in the same article, I would not be suprised if many of the new units from the Necron range stay ETB permanently.

4000+
6000+ Order. Unity. Obedience.
Thousand Sons 4000+
:Necron: Necron Discord: https://discord.com/invite/AGtpeD4  
   
Made in us
Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

Tavis75 wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Tavis75 wrote:
Lokhust Destroyer Lord


Article only specifically mentions lokhust heavy destroyer even showing picture. No word whatsoever about their lords. Only lords they mention is even more so than when in the presence of both their Lords for re-rolls on hit and wound rolls of 1. but there's already skorpek destroyer lord and destroyer lord. Risky business to start assuming there's another lord kit released when there's been no picture or even rumour of one.


Ah yes, you're right, misread it and thought it was the Lord not the Heavy Destroyer.

From Beyond Indomitus – Top 5 Tips for Expanding Your Necrons on Warhammer Community:

Whether of the Skorpekh or Lokhust variety, Destroyers work exceptionally well in conjunction with one another – even more so than when in the presence of both their Lords for re-rolls on hit and wound rolls of 1.

So Lokhust Destroyer Lords have been confirmed as the sentence is talking about Skorpekh and Lokhust variety of Destroyers.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in fi
Decrepit Dakkanaut





Good job reading more than what was said. All it said destroyer lords plural. We already have 2 destroyer lords. That's like reading there's going to be light, medium, normal and heavy intercessors when intercessors were announced.

12 factions for Lord of The Rings
4663
11772 pts(along with lots of unpainted unsorted stuff)
5265 pts
5150 pts
~3200 pts Knights

 
   
Made in us
Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

tneva82 wrote:
Good job reading more than what was said. All it said destroyer lords plural. We already have 2 destroyer lords. That's like reading there's going to be light, medium, normal and heavy intercessors when intercessors were announced.

And what does the sentence say at the very beginning?

Whether of the Skorpekh or Lokhust variety...

No mention of 'normal' Destroyers at all.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





 Ghaz wrote:

Whether of the Skorpekh or Lokhust variety...

No mention of 'normal' Destroyers at all.


I think Lokhust destroyers is now just the name for the floating type of Destroyer, rather than a new type, though I would hope that GW would update all the old Destroyer types in one go, rather than having a mix of old and new styles, so I would think a Lokhust Destroyer Lord is likely, maybe even made out of the same kit as the Heavy Destroyer.
   
Made in si
Steady Stonecleaver







You're making an assumption that Lokhust isn't just the new name for the normal Destroyer, despite Lokhust obviously referring to the hover Destroyers.

Posters on ignore list: 33

40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.

Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here
   
Made in ca
Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard






Vancouver, BC

The normal destroyers are going to be Lokhust variety/pattern while the new scuttling ones are Skorpekh.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
Made in us
Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

 lord_blackfang wrote:
You're making an assumption that Lokhust isn't just the new name for the normal Destroyer, despite Lokhust obviously referring to the hover Destroyers.

No. I've always assumed that the 'normal' Destroyers would have their fluff retconned to make them Lokhust Destroyers. I use the term 'normal' Destroyers to differentiate them from the new models and rules, much as GW seems to be doing. So while the 'normal' Destroyer Lord has the fluff of a Lokhust Destroyer Lord, it has neither the new rules or model of the Lokhust Destroyer Lord.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
Made in si
Steady Stonecleaver







Sooo... are we in agreement that the new Necron codex will have a grand total of two different Destroyer Lords?

Posters on ignore list: 33

40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.

Gangs of Nu Ork - Necromunda / Gorkamorka expansion supporting all faction. Feedback thread here
   
 
Forum Index » News & Rumors
Go to: