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Ruin has come to our tabletop.

Kickstarter is live!




https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162110258/darkest-dungeon-the-board-game



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Quality of miniatures is great and they've settled their payment issues with the designer of their Joan of Arc KS game, so I'd give 'em a go *if* I were interested in the property.

The usual caveat, of course, is that some Dakkanauts somehow expect or want a boardgame to have GW / metal / resin quality miniatures and, no, Mythic, CMON, etc. won't have them. KDM's about the only that comes to mind, and boardgamers are still not interested in assembling mini's or paying $25 for one.

IIRC, The background behind the dispute was that the designer had a contract with Sans Detour (y'know, the guys working hard to make sure they're spending Confrontation backer money on themselves) and Mythic bought Sans Detour, including the designer's contact with them. Oops, but I'm sure this sorta things happen, not that you want to be caught in it. Also, dig around their KS game updates to see how many outstanding games (eg. Solomon Kane) they still have.

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Totes adorbs.

I got the Joan of Arc kickstarter. Quality of minis was good, but there were issues with the game (extreme set up time, sloppy proofreading and testing for scenarios). I've backed two other kickstarters from them (Super Fantasy Brawl, which is close to shipping, and Joan 1.5 which is looking to ship in December or so now that they solved their legal disagreement), but I think I'd be a bit frustrated if I had backed Solomon Kane.
   
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About bloody time they did a board game for Darkest Dungeon.
The mini's are nice enough. Are they slightly chibified or is it just the angle of the photo playing tricks?



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 Snrub wrote:
The mini's are nice enough. Are they slightly chibified or is it just the angle of the photo playing tricks?
Darkest Dungeon already has slightly chibi characters (they are only 3-4 heads tall), so that picture looks like a pretty accurate representation of the game characters.
   
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 Sqorgar wrote:
Darkest Dungeon already has slightly chibi characters (they are only 3-4 heads tall), so that picture looks like a pretty accurate representation of the game characters.
You know, it took you saying that for my brain to go "of course they are". I don't know why I thought they were natural proportions. Especially considering I've got 500+ hours clocked in the game.

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If the game is good that is a bonus. The minis look great and I will be backing this just for a chance to get them. Darkest Dungeon is my favorite video game of the past 20 years, and I don't think I could pass this up.


 
   
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Just a reminder that this project launches on the 20th at 1pm EDT


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Ugh, proprietary dice.
Besides that, the proportions which look fitting to the art style in the game, just seem "off" for miniatures.

While liking the game, this doesn't really have me excited. Will be going in objectively.


 
   
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I can see why they've chosen to make minis that look like those characters in the game, (and indeed it might have been part and parcel of getting the licence),

and it's going to attract those who have a strong attachment to the video game

but it's going to rule out most of those who might just want to plunder the game for the minis

I guess we'll see how it works out for them

 
   
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> Besides that, the proportions which look fitting to the art style in the game, just seem "off" for miniatures.

I think that's one of the double-edged swords of an IP. Just as you "lock in" those who are fans of the IP, you risk "lock out" of those who aren't. Certainly, the DD miniature proportions risk the latter.

As others have said, translating from video game IP to boardgame medium has all sorts of issues, with some game design choices that even closely follow the game alienating the audience, such as Steamforge's "grinding" in its Dark Souls play.

On top of this, for a license, there may be a licensing fee, as well as licensor approval, both of which add more cost and potential delays to a KS project. Some licensors are easy for small companies to work with. Others aren't. A problem is that you, as a backer, usually don't know.

If you're on the fence for an IP-related game, particularly if you expect to play it, I say don't back it and wait for the reviews at retail. If you are attracted to the game, don't let the IP color your decision to back the game. Mythic could be better, but it's certainly not as bad as some other KS and retail IP's I've seen...

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I think it was always a given that they'd base the minis off of the "attack poses". But yeah, some of them don't translate overly well to miniature form.

Mythic have some of the minis up on their facebook.

I think, ideally, they should have just had all the minis in the stock at ease pose. So the plague doc and bone spearman. Nothing off about these.
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Where as something like the Collector

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Doesn't work at all. It's quite awkward looking.


I'd really like to see a game play vid. If it looks like a decent board game then i'd jump in on that. If it's, then just the minis for me. Does anyone know what Mythics other board games play like? Are they much fun?

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I really hope this won`t be a Kickstarter exclusive.

If it ends up costing in retail as much as Cthulhu wars, but has all the enemies from the video game (including the bosses), I`ll easily buy it.

But my guess is, that they`ll have DLCs in form of every separate dungeon: Fish, Hog, Mosquitos and so on.
   
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Edgar Skomorowski's the sculptor? Now, that has my interest peaked
   
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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I really hope this won`t be a Kickstarter exclusive.

If it ends up costing in retail as much as Cthulhu wars, but has all the enemies from the video game (including the bosses), I`ll easily buy it.

But my guess is, that they`ll have DLCs in form of every separate dungeon: Fish, Hog, Mosquitos and so on.


there was a big interview on Beast of War this weekend, and as you suspected it's KS exclusive (they talked to distribution, and got no interest at the price it would need to be), Sounds like the plan in a lot in the main box and a big expansion for the rest



 
   
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 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:
I really hope this won`t be a Kickstarter exclusive.

If it ends up costing in retail as much as Cthulhu wars, but has all the enemies from the video game (including the bosses), I`ll easily buy it.

But my guess is, that they`ll have DLCs in form of every separate dungeon: Fish, Hog, Mosquitos and so on.


there was a big interview on Beast of War this weekend, and as you suspected it's KS exclusive (they talked to distribution, and got no interest at the price it would need to be), Sounds like the plan in a lot in the main box and a big expansion for the rest




Well.... feth.

I guess no DD board game for me - can`t reallt justify bying another boardgame atm. Kinda stings, with being a big DD fan and all. And the sculptors did justice.
Maybe they`ll have late pledges.. Like half a year late.
   
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SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

Well.... feth.

I guess no DD board game for me - can`t reallt justify bying another boardgame atm. Kinda stings, with being a big DD fan and all. And the sculptors did justice.
Maybe they`ll have late pledges.. Like half a year late.


If you are actually interested in the game, but money situation is not good, why not $1 pledge? That way you'll get the updates and can make up your mind at later time when you see how long the PM is open.

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I'm not in the market for this but chibi style dungeons crawlers are hella popular so I don't find proportions here being all that problematic.

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 Col Hammer wrote:
SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:

Well.... feth.

I guess no DD board game for me - can`t reallt justify bying another boardgame atm. Kinda stings, with being a big DD fan and all. And the sculptors did justice.
Maybe they`ll have late pledges.. Like half a year late.


If you are actually interested in the game, but money situation is not good, why not $1 pledge? That way you'll get the updates and can make up your mind at later time when you see how long the PM is open.


Haven`t thought of that! Thanks

I guess, it shows, that I have never backed anything on KS.
   
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This one looks interesting. A buddy of mine has gone all in, so I look forward to painting his copy in a year or so!

I play...

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Kickstarter is live now.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162110258/darkest-dungeon-the-board-game?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=darkest%20dungeon

Really conflicted about this. I loved the game and I quite like the design of the miniatures BUT

A) As I've seen from backing the most recent Catalyst Battletech kickstarter, renders and reality are often far apart and I have to imagine that Mythic will outsource the miniatures production to China with predictable results
B) Mythic doesn't seem to enjoy a great reputation for their various projects and while you'd hope they've learned from their failures regarding previous Kickstarters, you never know...
   
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Das_Ubermike wrote:

A) As I've seen from backing the most recent Catalyst Battletech kickstarter, renders and reality are often far apart and I have to imagine that Mythic will outsource the miniatures production to China with predictable results
B) Mythic doesn't seem to enjoy a great reputation for their various projects and while you'd hope they've learned from their failures regarding previous Kickstarters, you never know...


I have received a couple of pledges from Mythic and miniature quality has been very good for both games.

Both games I have received play well but there are some proof reading issues with the rules and gameplay in both games had a few less than ideal areas however in both games they have taken feedback on board and are releasing updated rulebooks with the proof reading issues fixed and updated mechanics (from memory for Joan of Arc PDF is free but physical copy has a postage fee as it comes with quite a few other bits as part of a revised edition rule and mission book, for Reichbusters this is physical and has free postage as they had to send a replacement card sheet anyway). They say they have taken the proof reading issues on board for the future and area always open to feedback on the rules.
   
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The Bosses are kinda small, tbh. I was hoping they`d be in same proportion to the heros, as they are in the game.

Much more minis, than I expected though
   
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Mythic has provided good minis on everything I've had from them so I wouldn't worry on that front,

Gameplay is to my mind a bit more of a worry although what I've had has been decent (although it might need a bit of head scratching or asking around to get your head around the way the rules are written)

the thing i'd worry most about is if the game will go far enough away from the videogame (which I don't know beyond the name) to make a good board game (Dark Souls from Steamforged clearly showed a faithful representation may not make a great game)…. but they've said they're aware of the issue, whether they get it right we'll wait and see

 
   
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Well this is an extremely disappointing no-go for me.

I can't justify paying a potential $150USD in shipping.




EDIT- OK, i've just seen in the comments, Australia get the same shipping as NZ, which is $45USD.
$280AUD is far more palatable then $420+.

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> (although it might need a bit of head scratching or asking around to get your head around the way the rules are written)

I think Mythic and Monolith are French companies, so, yes, stuff can be lost in translation. And not only should you have a gamer make the translation, but the translation needs to be playtested as well.

YMMV.


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 ced1106 wrote:
> (although it might need a bit of head scratching or asking around to get your head around the way the rules are written)

I think Mythic and Monolith are French companies, so, yes, stuff can be lost in translation. And not only should you have a gamer make the translation, but the translation needs to be playtested as well.

YMMV.



They have acknowledged the translation issues and have said they taking steps to resolve them moving forward. You can see this with the new updated rule and campaign books for Time of Legends and Reichbusters are much clearer than the originals.
   
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I'm one of those poor fools who backed Solomon Kane more than two years ago and has yet to see anything from it.

They claim that production is ongoing, but we haven't seen anything conclusive lately. The first wave was supposed to ship in q4 this year, but since it isn't on a boat yet, I'm very skeptical it will ship by Q4.

I expect it will deliver eventually, but just wanted to give fair warning.
   
 
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