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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/08 23:18:52
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Powerful Ushbati
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So, yeah, is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress? If not, and it's something big, but lesser than these mythic city ships, why does the Imperium only have one? How did Dorn get/make the Phalanx?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/08 23:24:09
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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The Phalanx is not a Blackstone Fortress - it's either a Dark Age Relic or was built by Dorn before he met the Emperor.
The Imperium does have multiple similar Star-forts, such as the Ramilles Class.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/09 11:24:04
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Phalanx looks very similar to a Ramilles, so it is almost certainly a craft of the same type, albeit modified by Dorn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/09 12:01:05
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lord Damocles wrote:Phalanx looks very similar to a Ramilles, so it is almost certainly a craft of the same type, albeit modified by Dorn.
Although is that more a limitation of limited art assets rather than it actually being similar Ramilles? The impression given was that it was a unique construction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/09 12:10:25
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Iracundus wrote: Lord Damocles wrote:Phalanx looks very similar to a Ramilles, so it is almost certainly a craft of the same type, albeit modified by Dorn.
Although is that more a limitation of limited art assets rather than it actually being similar Ramilles? The impression given was that it was a unique construction.
I don't see why whoever drew Phalanx in the Imperial Fists supplement would be limited by art assets?
Or why whoever created the model in Battlefleet Gothic: Armada would be limited when they apparently weren't when making the other unique ships?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/10 04:36:10
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Powerful Ushbati
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But how did he build it? It's massive and I find it hard to believe even Ultramar would have been able to build such a structure during the DAoT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/10 05:03:27
Subject: Re:Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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It may be one of those. "Shrug it exists" type scenarios. So many of the super weapons in 40K simply exist, have existed for so long that the makers are long forgotten.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/10 12:03:21
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dorn found it in orbit around Inwit and then repaired/modified it, according to the Imperial Fists supplement.
The Imperium has built thousands of Ramillies star forts, so they're not that difficult and irreplaceable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/10 17:58:39
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Powerful Ushbati
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Lord Damocles wrote:Dorn found it in orbit around Inwit and then repaired/modified it, according to the Imperial Fists supplement.
The Imperium has built thousands of Ramillies star forts, so they're not that difficult and irreplaceable.
It's interesting because none of the wikies list it as a Ramillies. It does seem to be its own distinct design.
So he found it in orbit around Inwit, it stands to reason it was part of that system before the fall, which would make a lot more sense then just "I built this, dad" type of thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/11 17:14:46
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Battleship Captain
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Lord Damocles wrote:Dorn found it in orbit around Inwit and then repaired/modified it, according to the Imperial Fists supplement.
The Imperium has built thousands of Ramillies star forts, so they're not that difficult and irreplaceable.
The Phalanx isn't impossibly huge - the ring of iron is far, far larger - but a ramilies is not mobile under it's own power (though it can be towed).
It wouldn't surprise me if the phalanx was the prototype from which the immobile STC for the ramilies was recovered or reverse-engineered pre-heresy.
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/12 09:50:27
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Norn Queen
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I was gonna say, it probably looks similar because of STC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/12 13:26:57
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It would be interesting to see how star-forts like the Galaton measured up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/12 23:23:40
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Togusa wrote:But how did he build it? It's massive and I find it hard to believe even Ultramar would have been able to build such a structure during the DAoT.
If the Dark Angels found a way to give a massive chunk of planet engines and a Warp Drive without Mechanicum help, I think Dorn with Mechanicum help can find a way to build an artificial similar thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/13 16:52:40
Subject: Is the Phalanx a Blackstone Fortress?
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Battleship Captain
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Platuan4th wrote: Togusa wrote:But how did he build it? It's massive and I find it hard to believe even Ultramar would have been able to build such a structure during the DAoT.
If the Dark Angels found a way to give a massive chunk of planet engines and a Warp Drive without Mechanicum help, I think Dorn with Mechanicum help can find a way to build an artificial similar thing.
Yeah....let's skip quietly past the warp engines on the Rock. Because they're totally not in any way a daemon engine.
Honest
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tuchulcha
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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