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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 12:32:56
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Been Around the Block
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Should units that comes in groups of six be allowed to be take in units of nine? Havent done the math but feels like units that are allowed to be taken in nines survive better against certain blast weapons. Taking into account slot limit and that dividing them into units of trees is not always an option. Though this has mostly been a problem in PL/Crusade matches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 18:43:18
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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that's a very vague question really - there are a lot of variables to consider.
In general, units of 6 are fairly elite and powerful - and a unit of 9, taking advantage of stratagems etc, could prove overpowered.
Killa kans, for example, can come in squads up to 6. increasing it to 9 would not really affect much, as kila kans are really rubbish, and not worth their points.
Most space marine elite units would be excessive in units of 9.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/28 20:31:17
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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The math on how effective blast weapons are is no different between 6- and 9-man units. To avoid blasts and coherency BS I think we will see 5-man units for units that are 3-6 or even 3-9, so having the option probably would not matter. Like with my Aggressor list from 8th the first thing I would do is I would cut 1 Aggressor from all three of my units as my first step towards getting down under 2000 pts for the new edition, pushing it even further even if it were an option would be a bad idea IMO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/29 05:01:27
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm struggling to think of a lot of units that can take up to 6 models but not up to 9. Mostly it's primaris units that are probably fine without giving them a boost. Hive guard? Also don't need a boost.
Maybe zoanthropes?
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ATTENTION. Psychic tests are unfluffy. Your longing for AV is understandable but misguided. Your chapter doesn't need a separate codex. Doctrines should go away. Being a "troop" means nothing. This has been a cranky service announcement. You may now resume your regularly scheduled arguing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 22:09:52
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Been Around the Block
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English is not my first language so not always the easiest to express myself in.
A psychological effect then perhaps, the opponent not bothering with them as much because they are half strength.
The unit that got me starting to think was the Stealth Battlesuits, hade consolidate my Crisis Suits into lager units and wanted to do the same to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 22:46:15
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Fixture of Dakka
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There may be units that are currently maxed out at 6 that wouldn't be broken in squads of 9. There are probably also units that can only be taken in squads of 6 that *would* be broken in squads of 9. Probably best to take it on a case-by-case basis rather than trying a one-size-fits-all approach.
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ATTENTION. Psychic tests are unfluffy. Your longing for AV is understandable but misguided. Your chapter doesn't need a separate codex. Doctrines should go away. Being a "troop" means nothing. This has been a cranky service announcement. You may now resume your regularly scheduled arguing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/08/30 23:00:24
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Most of the things that max out at 6 are really big and expensive, though, I think you'd be better off dropping down to 5 with most of them if you were worried about blasts, even if you did have the option to go up to 9. Centurions, Ironstriders, that kind of thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/01 14:47:17
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Implacable Skitarii
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A unit of 9 Kastellan robots, for example, is probably too powerful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/02 17:11:22
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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As should a unit that costs 1125pts honestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/09/02 18:32:09
Subject: Six model units in an awkward spot?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Too powerful, this word, it does not mean what you think it means. The instant protocol change Stratagem and the other Stratagems you can put on robots combined would be unstoppable, not balanced given the pts paid. If your opponent brings 2x6 robots and you kill 2 in one squad and 1 in the other your opponent can stack Stratagems on 5 robots, if your opponent brought a single unit of 9 they would save a lot of pts and use their Stratagems on 6 robots instead of 5 after you killed three.
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