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I've stuck some pretty difficult kits together before, but Holy Gak - what the hell is with how they constructed Scions?!?

So Plasma, Meltas, Tempestors, Primes are all like normal GW models but if going Lasgun, 4 parts have to match up absolutely spot on perfectly. The backpack, the right arm, the gun with hands and the left arm. If just one is a couple of degrees out then you're buggered. It's like a rubix cube, it reminds me of an episode of Air Crash Investigation where the pilot was 3 degrees out in a calculation and ended up in a mountain 4 miles off course (the results not being as tragic tbf).
I've even just given up on the pipes and cut them off (going Lambden Lions so they'll have Mechanics hotshot lasguns so don't need pipes) and it's STILL ridiculous trying to match up the arms and gun. I must be doing something wrong because this would but the majority of sane people off from collecting Scions. Any advice to make it easier?

Only suggestions I can make are:

- dry-fit first, that is, take the pieces and just hold them in place without glue, so you can see what you need to do next without risking messing up.
- glue the arms to the gun first, and try and get those onto the torso before dry so you can wiggle them if necessary. Leave the backpack and connecting cables for last - I know you've said you're cutting them, but the cables themselves are easy enough to bend into the right place if they're a little out.

 Super Ready wrote:
Only suggestions I can make are:

- dry-fit first, that is, take the pieces and just hold them in place without glue, so you can see what you need to do next without risking messing up.
- glue the arms to the gun first, and try and get those onto the torso before dry so you can wiggle them if necessary. Leave the backpack and connecting cables for last - I know you've said you're cutting them, but the cables themselves are easy enough to bend into the right place if they're a little out.

Gonna have to disagree. Having assembled a bunch of Scions and having zero issues(especially compared to Infinity models like the Guilang or the two-handed staves of the Praetorians), do the back pack FIRST. That cable will determine where everything else sits. Glue the upper right arm to the lower right arm, then attach that to the torso and align the cables. After that sets a bit, glue the left arm. Also, be ABSOLUTELY certain you're using the correct sets of those four parts together.

Thanks for the replies. Since deciding to cut the pipes for the sake of sanity I've been going right arm then gun then left arm like the order you suggest above but the gun and attached fingers are so incredibly difficult to align to the left arm, it's almost like the kit is designed with green stuff in mind.
I have tried the dry fit as you describe it but then it has to be absolutely exact when then trying to fit it afterwards as that hand is so small and fiddly. No idea why they couldn't just do the arms with the hands like most models rather than having the hands on the guns and the arms seperate - its an utterly bizzare way of thinking imo. I know there are a few other kits where this is also the case but I've never had this trouble before.
It is tbf the first models I'm constructing in 3 or 4 years but that shouldn't make much of a difference.

Use plastic model glue, it takes ages to set. Just stick em all together and move them into place.

Once their in place, push on them to fix their positions.

Backpack first always, followed by gun arm. The pieces fit right in place so long as you’ve matched them correctly. If the cable doesn’t line up you’ve mismatched the gun arm with the back pack. To verify, each arm has a number on the gluing side that goes with each backpack.

Thanks for the replies - going to try again tomorrow

Poly Ranger wrote:
I've stuck some pretty difficult kits together before, but Holy Gak - what the hell is with how they constructed Scions?!?

So Plasma, Meltas, Tempestors, Primes are all like normal GW models but if going Lasgun, 4 parts have to match up absolutely spot on perfectly. The backpack, the right arm, the gun with hands and the left arm. If just one is a couple of degrees out then you're buggered. It's like a rubix cube, it reminds me of an episode of Air Crash Investigation where the pilot was 3 degrees out in a calculation and ended up in a mountain 4 miles off course (the results not being as tragic tbf).
I've even just given up on the pipes and cut them off (going Lambden Lions so they'll have Mechanics hotshot lasguns so don't need pipes) and it's STILL ridiculous trying to match up the arms and gun. I must be doing something wrong because this would but the majority of sane people off from collecting Scions. Any advice to make it easier?

I remember saying to hell with it at one point and snipping the cables off. Highly recommended. There's been stormtroopers with hellguns that didn't have cables before, you'd hardly be the first. Gives you a lot more poses too, which is good because the scion kit is absolutely awful for customization, especially if you like plasma

But no you're not crazy, that kit is a bear and gets on my nerves. It's probably why I never got around to finishing my stormtroopers platoon now that I think about it.

I won't lie, I cut off the dumb hoses when I played scions. The constant threat of breaking killed the faction for me. I was so sick of holding pressure on 4 simultaneous points, that simply snap if there is too much pressure, I just quit making them the way the book said. The hoses are just flat out dumb design. Snap em off. Anyone who needs the hoses for ID'ing a Scion is blind or has never played before.

I did neither, I simply went on eBay and bought the old 3rd Edition metal Stormtroopers - problem solved! Kasrkin work too!