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 Gallahad wrote:
Hmm, I'll see. Shipping for Conan was very expensive and I didn't really feel like I got much for my money.

Obviously it's subjective but I felt like Conan The Conqueror was a good deal. A lot of the figures are huge and at retail, looking at similar sized creatures, would run $40-$60 each MSRP. Add that to OG conan being my top used mini set for fantasy RPGS over the past few years and I know I'll get a lot out of the set.

I wouldn't expect MB:R to be a free flowing with minis as OG Conan or MB as those days are long gone on KSer in general but it will most likely have more for your money if that's the biggest concern for reasons below. We know Conan The Conqueror was more reigned in too due to budgetary reasons. Failure of the Beyond the Monolith KSer and Fred's partners walking away and wanting to cash out their shares of Batman which have been discussed to death. But one that really wasn't was Fred not sure there was really any interests in Conan due to retail failure so he didn't want to do a expansion with a lot of cash invested that he wasn't sure he could make back through shear sales numbers. Mythic Battle games have always had a strong demand post KSer and they're looking to do another reprint of MB (might be a partial, they haven't committed to everything yet) so that fear that it's a dead game isn't holding back Fred.

 Llamahead wrote:
Pantheon and Joan of Arc produced some excellent models and the Ymir is a thing of beauty I can't wait! Everything I've ordered has been delivered and I received a refund from Time of Legends Destinies without trouble.

Mythic Games sold their part of Mythic Battles to Monolith and aren't involved with the game anymore (haven't for years).

Several previews and updates recently

First form a post today

We've never been so close! We are aiming for a launch in the second half of this quarter and will be able to publish the exact date in the next two weeks.
We are still waiting for some information from our partner factories before we publish the survey from which we will gauge demand for what Mythic Battles: Pantheon products we would include in the upcoming Mythic Battles: Ragnarök campaign.
This survey will allow backers to indicate their choice of Mythic Battles: Pantheon products from the entire MB-P product range and not just those products that have already been reprinted. If there is sufficient demand, those products will be added to the range of available products in the Mythic Battles: Ragnarök Kickstarter campaign or Pledge manager.
The only MB-P product we will offer during the Mythic Battles Ragnarök Kickstarter campaign will be the Mythic Battles Pantheon 1.5 core box (and its Stretch Goals).
All other Mythic Battles Pantheon products we elect to add (including the MB-P1.5 core box) will be available in the Mythic Battles Ragnarök pledge manager.
It’s our attempt not to overwhelm or complicate choices for new players of the game.
The next few weeks will see a series of news on MBR, revealing to you before the launch all

also news on a webstore

It is time! By mid-year, once all Conan: the Conqueror pledges are delivered, we will be opening the online store we've been working on for some time. It will offer products from several ranges, in limited quantities, as well as new products. We're not planning to make it just a clearance or pre-order space but give it a life of its own. It is also part of a more comprehensive restructuring project for our pledge manager and our after-sales service, which will be overhauled this year. We point out in advance that there are no plans, with very specific exceptions, to make the products available on our store at a price lower than that which was theirs during our campaigns. We want our early supporters to be most rewarded. Likewise, pre-orders will not offer a lower price than campaigns.

Now for some previews (I've hidden the larger images that are just alternative views). I'm not sure how I feel about the giants so far. I didn't like their Yimir at all and I'm on the fence here. I guess they need to do something different then just traditional stuff but it's not working for me.

Thor has been previewed. Next week they should have a launch date set.

 Gallahad wrote:
None of your image links show up for me Monkey Sloth. Maybe on my end? Are they showing up for other people?

That being said, I found the image on their Facebook page, and boy does Thor's hammer look stupid.

They're direct linked the Facebook page. I checked in some incognito windows to make sure they'd show up if not logged in so it's odd you cannot see them but can access facebook.

The hammer is a very traditional style for Thor -- which I agree has never looked that good to me due to how squat it is but they do have lots of references for the basic design of the hammer from old art.


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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:


This will be one I'm less interested in the gods, more interested in the human sized models. Hel had some cool stuff- can they top those for Ragnarok?

For MB: P I use the gods as statues as they're very static and work great for that in generic D&D settings and such. While I don't like the giants shown so far in MB:R thor will be an ice giant for me in other games.

 Chillreaper wrote:
I don't care how much that handle is based on peer-reviewed papers analysing period accurate representation of Norse folklore - it looks daft.

Rule of cool trumps everything.

If I get on board this KS, the handle is getting modded.

Thor himself would probably appreciate it as the hammer's handle is shorter then it's suppose to be due to Loki.

While making the boar Gullinbursti, a gadfly, often thought to be Loki himself, came and bit Brokkr on the hand. Brokkr was not disturbed though and kept blowing into the fire. While making the golden arm ring Draupnir the gadfly came again and bit Brokkr, this time in the neck but Brokkr kept on blowing. Finally, while making the hammer Mjölnir the gadfly bit Brokkr on the eye this time. This temporarily caused Brokkr to stop blowing. That brief stoppage of blowing into the fire caused Mjölnir's handle to become shorter than it should have been. Because of this, Thor had to wear the iron gauntlets Járngreipr to handle it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokkr

March 23d is the KSer date



from some KSer comments:

"VAT is included for EU and UK, concerning postage, we are actually exploring different solutions for shipping" This is in response to a common about CMoN's shipping/VAT issues

Less expansions the MBP (We knew that already though)

No knew MPB stuff but they're open to the concept.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
That’s March 23rd

Doh. Not sure why I read it as the 21st.

Agreed. But at the same time many of the poses have grown on me as I appreciate them trying to not make them as static and similar as Conan and MBP was.

I really like the Valkyrie queen pose and the above one does looks pretty good from the front..

Seers shown off today. I really like this one.

Odd that Ymir is in there. Is that just the MB exclusive head option then?

I've not had intrest in playing it but it has a pretty good rating on BGG and there are some decent sized online groups around the game.

Fun fact. It's actually a much older game that Monolith bought the rights to and the original designer worked on the monolith version which used a lot of the same art.

Here's the original from 212
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/125996/mythic-battles

Fenrir.

And ya, the sword through the mouth is a thing from the old tales.

Hrym
While the gods and mankind wasted their time pursuing vain, childish occupations, the giant Hrym prepared for the end of the world in the shadows, building a ship to transport his armies to fight in Ragnarök.



painted, as I think it sells the piece more,. and scale shot. I really like it.

He's more of a general/leader so I think the sculpt fits.

Some teasers from Monolith and Matt John. There's going to be a Conan crossover again.

Fafnir, the likely inspiration for Smaug in the Hobbit, was previewed recently.



It's looks to be on a 100mm base so maybe about 1/3rd the size in it's concept art but you've got to be practical as while I like the Joan Of Arc dragon that thing is a pain to have on the table.

They had tree models for the first one, though it was an extra add on.

I've backed about half their KS campaigns and never felt they cut corners or didn't try to put out the best they could. There's always been translation issues due to Fred's views on those but I think Matt John has made Conan, at least, much better in English.

Also the KS starts first week of April, they had to delay I week.

In a Conan KSer update Monolith has given an rough overview of what the Conan add on will be for this.

Sometime after the launch of Mythic Battles Ragnarok— most likely during the live campaign, but possibly during the pledge manager phase—we will offer an add-on that will allow you to use your Mythic Battles Ragnarok core set with Conan!

Because the Norse setting pairs so well with Conan, subbing in for the frozen reaches of Nordheim, we couldn’t pass up the opportunity to give Conan fans more things to slay. Here’s what we’re proposing:

-The Conan/MBR expansion will offer heaps of tiles and hero sheets from the Mythic Battles Ragnarok Core game and its expansions. We will focus on characters and creatures that best fit the Hyborian Age setting in terms of aesthetic and theme. Please know, we will not risk sacrificing our adherence to the Robert E. Howard source material, but fear not, there’s plenty in MBR that fits beautifully into Howard’s world.

- The Conan/MBR expansion will offer new spells and equipment cards, suited to the frozen north.

-It will come with a scenario booklet containing 8 brand-new scenarios for use with the core MBR game boards (4 adventure mode scenarios and 4 solo/co-op scenarios).

-With this expansion, players will only require any version of Conan (including core/retail) AND the Mythic Battles Ragnarok core set. We will offer substitution options for older Conan material and MBR expansion material where appropriate/possible.

I can understand the monopose complaint but it's not always (just mostly always). There are some where there's 2 (pirates, town guard in Conan come to mind) but it's not the norm as they would rather give more variety in units then do lots of multiple poses. It's a hard line to straddle as there are supporters of both approaches.

Price is always a subjective thing but I think callout it outrageous is a bit over the top (I'm assuming you're talking about Conqueror as the OG one was an amazing deal that just can't happen anymore if you want to actually not loose money which it did). $100 for the stuff in the spoiler plus all the maps and scenarios (where a lot of the cost goes) is perfectly reasonable. It's not amazing (especially if you only want the minis) but it's not outrageous either. And that's not including the MBP reprints they added as SG.

I think that's a fair post. Conqueror has some very large minis that invader doesn't have in the retail box. So Invader is cheaper with more minis but Conan has more large figures for $20 more which is probably a similar amount of plastic for both games.

That extra $20 is Conan's big challenge for competing in price is the standard scenarios the game was originally designed around as they're a huge amount of work to create, playtest and balance so a lot of the cost is right there. The solo mode stuff Matt John created is much more akin to zombiecide and other similar boardgame scenarios where balance isn't as much of an issue but Monolith is very particular about making sure the original (vs mode) style of scenarios are fine tuned to be as fair to both sides as possible and it takes a lot of time and money. There's a post in Conan Gaming where Matt John talks a bit about the cost in hours for those and they're very absurdly high compared to what most other boardgames and wargames have. So if you're not into the game it can seam over priced as people don't account for the effort of those scenarios.

I'll be interested in seeing how MB:R does and what it's SG are as MBP was one of those amazing deals in cost and it really doesn't have the scenario cost Conan does as it will show what Monoliths post Conqueror mindset is . Conqueror was a very reserved campaign due to Fred's concerns about there being interest in the game still and the original loosing money so it was also paired down some to be low risk financially (but still probably wouldn't have been what you wanted). While MBP didn't loose money it didn't seam to make a lot (Batman is the only one that did) for the company.

For sure the KS version on invader was a better deal but since you were pricing it vs retail I stuck there for comparison.

I don't think you'll ever get away from them having lots of scenarios as they're so heavily tied to the maps and units in each set (you can't really pick your own, you have to use what's listed to keep the balance). But I think there will be more voices asking for alt sculpts as the game should start seeing regular release cadence which will change expectations away from "we just want more Conan" to people actually asking for what they want. The Beyond the Monolith stuff was an interesting idea but really poorly executied and even more poorly done on KS trying to have an odd mix of MBP and Conan. I really struggled to justify the cost on that one as I had no interest in the game mode.


In MBP news they posted an update on the survey that went out in march and everything for the game except one specific book (in French) will be reprinted. This should also include having things in the new webstore post KS delivery so if you want to pay a higher price and not deal with KS as a platform then you can.

Also launches tomorrow. 3PM EST (think that's 6pm GMT).

Since pretty much the whole line will available direct from Monolith for the first time post Kickstarter you don't have to purchase everything. I don't know if they're even planning on having KS exclusives anymore. We'll find out more before the campaign ends

They announced in January that they're finally opening a webstore, once Conan is delivered.

It is time! By mid-year, once all Conan: the Conqueror pledges are delivered, we will be opening the online store we've been working on for some time. It will offer products from several ranges, in limited quantities, as well as new products. We're not planning to make it just a clearance or pre-order space but give it a life of its own. It is also part of a more comprehensive restructuring project for our pledge manager and our after-sales service, which will be overhauled this year. We point out in advance that there are no plans, with very specific exceptions, to make the products available on our store at a price lower than that which was theirs during our campaigns. We want our early supporters to be most rewarded. Likewise, pre-orders will not offer a lower price than campaigns.

Since they'd been a KS only company since the failure of OG Conan in retail (MBP was planned but dropped once they saw how Conan struggled) so several things for MBP are listed as KS exclusive. We don't know how they'll deal with that but I have a feeling that they'll just sell everything as that seams inline with some things we've heard. The store is a very long requested thing from fans and I think is part of Fred's new found enthusiasm post his partners leaving (which sunk it) and Conan's very good KSer vs his expectations.

It's unfortunate that MBP didn't hit retail but what stung Conan, so many KS exclusives that most of the scenarios made available for the game weren't playable, could have affected MBP even though MBP is a draft team builder and Conan is use what the scenario said. So much stuff was KS exclusive in MBP that I don't know how well it would be received. CMoN did exclusives right by making the vast majority of them just alternate skins (which is honestly what the majority of Zombiecide stuff is even if there are cards for each survivor) with very little that affect gameplay.

$135 is a bit more then I was expecting for the base MBP pledge but it's still pretty good when you loot at what comes with it. Atlas alone would be a over $60 if it was an official D&D figure in retail.

Also nice to see all the add ons from the begning.

Wonder if they're going to redo Loki as people really hated it on FB. They wanted MCU Loki and Monolith said they'd consider doing a slight rework on the pose.

The only one that looks bad to me is Heimdall. Outside of that I think the poses are all find considering the constraints of plastic and keeping costs reasonable.

This is looking to beat Conan the Conqueror's total in just the first day. MP was always their most popular internal IP.


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adding in all the unlocked SGs so far:

I'm not keen on Grendel's mom, think they dropped the ball there, but I like Grendel himself. Not a fan of Mirmr either but so far that's 2 SG that I don't like which isn't that bad.

Skadi is unlocked.