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How do!

So, a new thread concept I want to try out. If this works, I’ll do others in a similar vein for other characters, nipped and tucked based on feedback and that.

What I’m looking to explore is your take on a Batman Movie, cherry picked from existing movies, and even specific scenes lifted and transplanted.

It kinda a Geek arts and crafts thread.



And we’re kicking it off with a super hero most everyone has some familiarity with, and across different takes and portrayals. The Batman. I’m asking you to rack your brains, and offer your thoughts, based on existing media, on how you might make The Ultimate Batman film.

All media is fair game here. Comics, prose, movies, TV series, radio serials etc. I encourage you to mix and match as you will.

Perhaps you felt a specific actor had the right build, another had the right suit, and yet another the right performance. Maybe you liked the overall plot of a given film, but preferred the aesthetic of a different film or comic. And yes, this includes the villain or villains you’d have Bats go up against.

It’s a creative thread. Go crazy, or be super duper conservative (little c, not the political meaning). There are no wrong answers.

But I would ask but one thing.....please provide pics and/or links to lesser known takes. Helps peeps understand betterer

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I would make Pride and Prejudice with Mr. Darcy as Bruce Wayne. No zombies though.....


Novelization then converted into a Movie and then a broadway muscial, possibly with a spin-off TV mini-series.

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Stevenage, UK

I want an older take, the kind that Batman v Superman started to show us (as much as I understand the complaints against that film, I will not hear a bad word said of Batfleck, he's been amazing in the role).
I want Batfleck as an experienced but jaded Bats, going up against Rami Malek as Riddler. I'm desperate to see the Riddler done well, and a Bats film that focuses strongly on the detective side, so naturally I'm keen to see what the Pattinson version will bring.

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The ship has already flown on my dream Batman idea... When the Schumacher movies happened, and Warner couldn't keep the same actor in the suit for longer than a single movie, I actually thought they should double down on that angle. Have each movie as a stand-alone, one-shot storyline, with a different director and different cast. Forget continuity, let each movie explore a different take on the Bat.



 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
The ship has already flown on my dream Batman idea... When the Schumacher movies happened, and Warner couldn't keep the same actor in the suit for longer than a single movie, I actually thought they should double down on that angle. Have each movie as a stand-alone, one-shot storyline, with a different director and different cast. Forget continuity, let each movie explore a different take on the Bat.




I agree with this, most of what I like in the DCAU or DC animated movies with Batman are the one-shot movies that don't carry over the exact same characterization of Batman. I feel like having to subscribe to the Marvel continuity is a mistake and having a distinct line-up of elseworld and one-shot movies are much more interesting.

My ideal Batman film would likely be animated though, ideally by Bruce Timm and Batman being voiced by Kevin Conroy (the definitive Batman IMO, at least in terms of voice) where it covers on Batman past his prime and when he actively chooses to retire. Sort of like the preamble before the start of the batman beyond cartoon, except it explores more of his age and wounds catching up with him and how he interacts with people like Dick or Commissioner Gordon before he decides to put down the cowl. Would make for an interesting take, especially on the parallel with villains who are still active alongside with him, or villains who have either reformed/moved onto greener pastures.
   
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The ship has already flown on my dream Batman idea... When the Schumacher movies happened, and Warner couldn't keep the same actor in the suit for longer than a single movie, I actually thought they should double down on that angle. Have each movie as a stand-alone, one-shot storyline, with a different director and different cast. Forget continuity, let each movie explore a different take on the Bat.

See, you say that, but let's look at the most recent Batses:

- Robert Pattinson's upcoming one
- Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, which
Spoiler:
has a young Bruce Wayne for about 5 minutes, shut up, it counts

- the last episode of Gotham,
Spoiler:
ok so he's there even less than 5 minutes, but it's actual full Bats, shut up, it still counts

- Batfleck
- animated Batman as voiced by Bruce Greenwood
- videogame Batman as still currently voiced by Kevin Conroy
- Lego Batman as voiced by Will Arnett

...that's a lot of different takes. Stop being greedy.

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I want a big bad Batman deconstruction where he makes mistakes, beat up sympathetic people forced into crime (and we get to see the result of those beatings) and abuse his power. Like, a big attack on the "Due process is just protecting the bad people from the good cops" mentality that is present in some Batman media (and even more so in some Punisher media and fans, any cop or soldier thinking of the Punisher as someone to aspire too is inherently a wrong cop/soldier and should not serve, but that's another thing entirely).

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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 Super Ready wrote:

- Robert Pattinson's upcoming one
- Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, which
Spoiler:
has a young Bruce Wayne for about 5 minutes, shut up, it counts

- the last episode of Gotham,
Spoiler:
ok so he's there even less than 5 minutes, but it's actual full Bats, shut up, it still counts

- Batfleck
- animated Batman as voiced by Bruce Greenwood
- videogame Batman as still currently voiced by Kevin Conroy
- Lego Batman as voiced by Will Arnett

...that's a lot of different takes. Stop being greedy.

Also Titans.

But yeah, I get that we've still had a lot of different takes, just that they could have done this as a specific strategy in the movies, as opposed to it just sort of happening accidentally because they're making a whole bunch of different stuff to see what sticks to the wall.

 
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I want a big bad Batman deconstruction where he makes mistakes, beat up sympathetic people forced into crime (and we get to see the result of those beatings) and abuse his power. Like, a big attack on the "Due process is just protecting the bad people from the good cops" mentality that is present in some Batman media (and even more so in some Punisher media and fans, any cop or soldier thinking of the Punisher as someone to aspire too is inherently a wrong cop/soldier and should not serve, but that's another thing entirely).


Had Snyder been allowed to continue I'm sure it would have happened.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I want a big bad Batman deconstruction where he makes mistakes, beat up sympathetic people forced into crime (and we get to see the result of those beatings) and abuse his power. Like, a big attack on the "Due process is just protecting the bad people from the good cops" mentality that is present in some Batman media (and even more so in some Punisher media and fans, any cop or soldier thinking of the Punisher as someone to aspire too is inherently a wrong cop/soldier and should not serve, but that's another thing entirely).

Have you read White Knight? It covers a little of this ground, and it's great for it.

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Personally, I'm sick to my back teeth of Batman deconstructions.

I think we're well overdue for a Batman REconstruction.

My pitch would be a blend of 'All Star Batman volume 1', Gauntlet, Dredd/TheRaid, Arkham Asylum and the BTAS episode 'Judgement Day.'


After a long time in Arkham Asylum... With funding from Wayne Enterprises, Two Face is actually cured and Harvey vows to testify and blow every single criminal scheme that Two Face was involved in wide open.

He just needs to get to Gotham Courthouse to do it.

Except, there's now a bounty out for him and Arkham Asylums cells have just been unlocked and his security detail has been massacred, leaving it down to Bats to get him to the Courthouse.


The movie is interspaced with flashback scenes from the times before Two-Face, including Bruce and Harveys friendship. The times of Bats battling Two-Face and Harveys treatment.

As they fight their way through the last few blocks to the courthouse, it is, of course, revealed that Two Face funded the bounty on... Himself.

They get across the street from the courthouse. Bats has ran out of gadgets... Batman is prepared to go down fighting...

"It's over... It's over... I'm sorry. You have always been a good friend to me... Bruce... It's time for me to return the favour..." RIGHT YOU LOSERS, I'M COMING OUT, YOU ALL ARE GETTING DOUBLE THE BOUNTY."

As Harvey goes out, surrendering himself, and Two Face takes over once again.

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Stevenage, UK

Are you saying that he... double-double crosses him?

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From a certain point of view. Or alternatively, Harvey surrenders himself to Two Face to give Batman a chance to escape and survive. All playing with the ideas of identity and how that while Harvey and Two Face are different people, ultimately both Bruce and Batman are just one thing. A hero.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
Had Snyder been allowed to continue I'm sure it would have happened.

What gives you this idea?
Anything in Snyder's filmography gives you this idea?
I mean, going by 300 I'm quite sure he would never had done anything like this.
 Super Ready wrote:
Have you read White Knight? It covers a little of this ground, and it's great for it.

Haven't.
 Compel wrote:
Personally, I'm sick to my back teeth of Batman deconstructions.

It's not the deconstruction we deserve, but it's the one we need!

"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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Stevenage, UK

Something that's been overlooked so far - who would you have as the Bat-family, were they present? (Which is another question all on its own merit, but let's assume Harvey already flipped that coin for you.)

Still going with an older Bats, so assuming everyone's their older versions, for me I reckon:
Nightwing: Jared Padalecki
Batgirl: Emma Stone
Red Hood: funnily enough, this is where I'd put Robert Pattinson...!
Red Robin (Tim): Tom Holland or Taron Egerton
Robin (Damian): Finn Wolfhard

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