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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine




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So I discovered this the other day. and was wondering if anyone has played it and if it is any good.The app is listed for $20 which is a pretty decent buy-in. not to mention you have to stat everything yourself. They seem to plan on having a decent sized community that shares their armies. but so far that doesn't seem to exist.

If I can convince my group to test out the free rules with me I will try and report back. but locking down my group to play anything has been difficult of late.

https://www.warsurge.com/

   
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They seem to plan on having a decent sized community that shares their armies. but so far that doesn't seem to exist.


And probably never will. This is the first I've heard of it or seen anything of it, for something like this to work you need to actively and relentlessly market the product to as many people as possible. Seems they are hoping for word of mouth to get them far, but it takes a loooooooong time for you to reach the "critical mass" where word of mouth becomes a factor unless you have that "magic" quality that resonates with people and goes viral.

Anyway, its got high production value, but $20 is a bit steep for a generic ruleset that looks to basically be a modified older edition of 40k. Unless they plan to actually support the game with official rules and weapon/unit stats, etc. I don't see why I should bother to pay for DIY rules.

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The app is essential for playing WARSURGE. It is now available for Android and iOS. Use the 'Go to App' button below to choose your device.


$19.99 for the app and it's essential.

This product isn't a miniatures game; the product is an app.

Reminds me of Golem Arcana where they held their miniatures behind DRM. The game flopped.
I'm also heavily concerned that game balance would severely favor min-maxing with customizable units and homogenize any semblance of factional identity. I'm not willing to pay $20 to find out.

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 Absolutionis wrote:
The app is essential for playing WARSURGE. It is now available for Android and iOS. Use the 'Go to App' button below to choose your device.


$19.99 for the app and it's essential.

This product isn't a miniatures game; the product is an app.

Reminds me of Golem Arcana where they held their miniatures behind DRM. The game flopped.
I'm also heavily concerned that game balance would severely favor min-maxing with customizable units and homogenize any semblance of factional identity. I'm not willing to pay $20 to find out.


I could for sure see min-maxing take over if a community got super competitive over the game. However, I don't think faction identity really has anything to do with that anyway. The idea is that you are just taking whatever models you want to run and giving them rules. So if I want to make my kroot crazy melee beasts and my ethereals psykers. Sure I am gaking all over the Tau identity for 40k. but I'm still paying the points to do it (assuming the points are properly balanced).


the $20 price point kills me. I mean it's less than the core rulebook for 40k. but at least I can watch batreps for 40k to see if I like it. This game doesn't have much of anything to go off of.
   
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I just can't get behind App-based games. Seems like such a gimmick with how fast tech based games get out-moded and left behind, when there are traditional in-print versions of this "use anything" game type on the market. I'm not even a fan of how you really need an program to make Song of Blades and Heroes fighters, but the real-world points cost formula is truly too cumbersome to constantly use to fiddle with points.

For instance, for a game style like this, I'd rather play either Grimdark Future, or Age of Fantasy from One Page Rules. The basic rulebooks are free, and each game has more than 20 armies each, which all have free to download army books- and all the downloadable stuff sees regular free development work. There is also a Skirmish version of each game, and all four games (the two army scale, and the two skirmish) all run off the same game engine. So technically you could have your Space Marines fight against a buddy's Stormcast or Fyreslayers, though the fantasy armies tend to suffer from the lack of all the ranged stuff the future forces have. MUCH more utility than a $20 app to even access the rules.

It always makes me sound like a company shill when I describe the game, but it's really that nifty of a project. If you were looking for Skirmish-scaled only games rather than a big 40k-esque army-scale game, there's also a bunch of companies out there that after you buy a physical book for what an app like the Warsurge one costs (unless the rules are just free, like Star Breach), you have a book that lasts years and years.


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 Absolutionis wrote:


Reminds me of Golem Arcana where they held their miniatures behind DRM. The game flopped.
I'm also heavily concerned that game balance would severely favor min-maxing with customizable units and homogenize any semblance of factional identity. I'm not willing to pay $20 to find out.


Or Ex-Illis. That game died hard deservedly so. From what I recall, it had codes tied to miniatures and the rules were worked out for you via an app. You had to enter the unique code to access the mini rules on your app. Ugh

There’s a reason app driven tabletop games haven’t been popular
   
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Yeah, at least Golem Arcana developed some legs, even if it eventually died. My buddy has tons of the figures that I have debated buying to use with a different rules system, maybe Song of Blades and Heroes.



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 zedmeister wrote:
 Absolutionis wrote:


Reminds me of Golem Arcana where they held their miniatures behind DRM. The game flopped.
I'm also heavily concerned that game balance would severely favor min-maxing with customizable units and homogenize any semblance of factional identity. I'm not willing to pay $20 to find out.


Or Ex-Illis. That game died hard deservedly so. From what I recall, it had codes tied to miniatures and the rules were worked out for you via an app. You had to enter the unique code to access the mini rules on your app. Ugh

There’s a reason app driven tabletop games haven’t been popular


A buddy & I gave Ex a shot. Saw it at GenCon, it looked interesting, & so we went together on a starter bundle.
Never could get the app to load/function.
Re-purposed the minis into other games.
   
 
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