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So I discovered this the other day. and was wondering if anyone has played it and if it is any good.

Hi all, I just came across this post and thought I'd join in. I'm one of Warsurge's designers.

Some interesting points I've read here, I can certainly provide some insight and plans from our perspective. We’ve been actively working from the feedback we receive from players and from those who have not got into it yet.

At this stage, I am currently editing two battle reports. One for the Standard (battle) and one for the Advanced (skirmish) playstyles of the game. We understand that being new, without seeing the game in action that it's somewhat of a blind purchase, so we are doing our best to address that.

We have made how to play videos for the game, which provides some insight before the battle reports go live.

We are developing options for players to export and print their rosters onto paper, as not everyone likes apps. That way the app is just a base for design and not ‘needed’ for gameplay.

We are developing a web version of the design system so that players can build units on a computer (or anything). They can then print their roster for a game here as well.

We have some sample profiles on the website so everyone can try the game out without even touching the app. Just watch the basics video then you’re on your way.

The $20 for the app is our 'toll gate' for the game, mainly to reduce piracy. We were going to sell the rules at one point and make the companion app cheaper/free, but we would have little to prevent players from pirating the rules.

Our community is growing, and we have players making all kinds of things in the facebook group, including Starcraft Terran Marines. There are players in that group who are just ‘watching’ to see what is going to happen with the game too. We were recently interviewed on Bell of Lost Souls and have an article on Spikey Bits as well.

We introduced a 90 sec feature video too, which is on the website: https://www.warsurge.com/game

If you guys have any questions or want to discuss anything, feel free to ask. Nice to meet you all by the way!

Edit: Regarding sharing premade armies, there's someone with 40k faction QR Codes here (and also metroid miniatures): https://www.deviantart.com/orakiolanden/gallery/76163166/warsurge-qr-for-40k

balmong7 wrote:
It is really cool that you took the time to post here though! I am still passively interested in the game and will be keeping an eye on it. one of the discord groups I am in that focuses on miniature agnostic games has a couple of users that sing your praises so I am hoping it's a success. Oddly enough, the thing that does kind of keep me from just paying the fee on the app is that I don't really have any desire to design my own units so I need not only a community that shares their own designs. but a visible one that is easy to find. It looks like you have links now on your website but I don't think you did when I originally made this thread.

Thanks, it's nice to hear that they are enjoying it! We want to deliver the best game possible, and we are constantly looking for feedback to improve it further.

You're right, the community links are new to the site. We are planning to make a dedicated QR sharing area where players can post whole armies (or individual units and weapons if they wish).

Out of curiosity, what miniatures/ranges do you play?

I mean currently, I have Tau, Gloomspite Gitz, and Sisters of Battle. What I would love to find though would be if people turned things like the Necromunda gangs into armies or the different STL file ranges from Titanforge and whatnot.

Ah yes. The Tau and Sisters of Battle have been turned into factions by a user, which can be scanned and instantly added. The Gloomspite Gitz, Necromunda and Titanforge stuff I haven't seen yet, but given time will happen. We will definitely set up an army exchange where players could also post requests, though the finer details of where and how this will happen we haven't agreed upon yet. We may have a forum or Facebook group that links to a cloud server for example.

When the exchange is set up, I'll provide some links so you can make requests! It will be helpful even if you are not playing yet

Agreed. There's a million and one game specific rulesets out there, and at least half a dozen which can supposedly be applied to 'any' wargame. Why on earth would I go about pirating locked away rulesets for the hell of it? It's not like they're hard to come across.

Then again, I suspect that's an intrinsic problem to trying to sell nothing but a ruleset. They really just don't have much intrinisic value vis-a-vis the actual labour required to make them. The sort of hours it requires to make a really tight ruleset will never be financially recompensed through pure sales without an attached wargame/model range. Very few people beyond rules designers actually derive pleasure from reading or learning or playtesting rules. Rather they do these things in order to enjoy a game with someone. Which inevitably means they pick something either attached to the model range they're using, or that's already in wide circulation (so both players already know it).

I'd be interested to be proven wrong though. Did you guys draw up a proper business plan? What sort of projected revenue do you anticipate? Or is this being subsidised by the 'affiliates' who like the idea of a combined ruleset for their individually disparate model ranges?

I feel like there could be a misunderstanding of what our product (Warsurge) actually is.

We agree that a ruleset is not worth charging for, especially in a digital format. That is why our entire ruleset is free and can be downloaded at the Warsurge website: www.warsurge.com

What we have designed is a program that allows players to design their own units and weapons (along with over 350 optional special rules), in an app that calculates their value for you. We're aiming for the most balanced miniature war gaming system ever made. Our other goals are to bring players together from completely different game systems (eg: 40k versus Infinity, or say Star Wars Legion) and let them have a lot of fun while doing so

We charge $20 for the app which took 5 years to make, and includes a lifetime of updates and additional features based on player requests and feedback.

Scienti5t wrote:
I'm game to try this. I bought the app but I can't figure out how to import those QR codes.

EDIT: Never mind. I figured it out. Sorry!

That's great, glad that you're sorted with the QR Codes. If you have any questions or anything else, feel free to reach out to us on social media or email. We're here to make the world of tabletop gaming better