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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 10:55:45
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Are there any characters still in a unit? - like SM Captains used to be able to take a Command Squad and they were In that command squad as a member (even locked in during one edition if I remember right?) Veteran Sergeants a long long time ago were characters. The other specialists too. Are there any left? A character that is/can be embedded inside a unit of non-characters or a retinue of some kind?
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 11:14:23
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Nope. All characters wander around on their own only protected by the closest-target rules these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 11:53:43
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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AnomanderRake wrote:Nope. All characters wander around on their own only protected by the closest-target rules these days.
That's the case for almost every example I can think of. Command squads for both Marines and IG, Ancients, Servitors, Grimaldus' retinue...
I might have found one though! T'au's "The Eight" contains pretty much all characters and comes as a unit.
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 12:03:16
Subject: Re:Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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... the silent king stands on a dias with two other guys.... does that count?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 12:08:22
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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GSC familiars.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 13:30:45
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Norn Queen
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GSC familiars are not dudes. They have no statline. They are wargear. At least thats what they used to be. It might have changed.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 14:55:35
Subject: Re:Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Hallowed Canoness
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The gemini. It's two characters models, and each one is part of an unit  .
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"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 16:49:37
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Breton wrote:Are there any characters still in a unit? - like SM Captains used to be able to take a Command Squad and they were In that command squad as a member (even locked in during one edition if I remember right?) Veteran Sergeants a long long time ago were characters. The other specialists too. Are there any left? A character that is/can be embedded inside a unit of non-characters or a retinue of some kind?
Lots of orks get some gretchen retinue, like painboys and meks. They're essentially a gretchin you just tack on to either use as a chump wound or get a one time buff like a reroll. Those and GSC familiars are the only two I know of
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
"Sector Imperialis: 25mm and 40mm Round Bases (40+20) 26€ (Including 32 skulls for basing) " GW design philosophy in a nutshell |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 17:44:02
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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MrMoustaffa wrote:Breton wrote:Are there any characters still in a unit? - like SM Captains used to be able to take a Command Squad and they were In that command squad as a member (even locked in during one edition if I remember right?) Veteran Sergeants a long long time ago were characters. The other specialists too. Are there any left? A character that is/can be embedded inside a unit of non-characters or a retinue of some kind?
Lots of orks get some gretchen retinue, like painboys and meks. They're essentially a gretchin you just tack on to either use as a chump wound or get a one time buff like a reroll. Those and GSC familiars are the only two I know of
I think Ethereals get some drones too.
I was just reading the Look Out Sir rule, and saw some wording that made me wonder. You can't target a unit that contains a character yadda yadda. And I wondered which if any units still have characters and noncharacters mixed. So technically you can't shoot the gretchin retinue (assuming they're one unit) either if the character (and thus unit) gets Look Out Sir from another unit.
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My WHFB armies were Bretonians and Tomb Kings. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 18:23:21
Subject: Re:Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Lieutenant General
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Grot Oilers, Ammo Runts and Grot Orderlies all have their own variant of the following rule:
When rolling to wound this unit, use the Character's Toughness while it is on the battlefield. The death of a Grot is ignored for the purposes of Morale tests. The Grot is considered to have the CHARACTER keyword for the purposes of shooting attacks.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2020/10/31 18:29:15
Subject: Are there any characters still in a unit?
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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More T'au: Aun'Va is a character in a unit with two bodyguards.
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