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Hey all

Had a bit of a mad moment the other day and bought some Imperial Navy ships from Battlefleet Gothic...

Anyhow, I'd like to paint them as per the artwork from the game's box, but I don't know what fleet it's supposed to represent.

This is the artwork -



Would anyone here have any insight as to what fleet the Imperial ships are meant to be from?

Thanks in advance.

You may slap yourself when you hear the answer:

The Imperial ships in Battlefleet Gothic are meant to represent... Battlefleet Gothic.

That's what the battlefleet is called. Right under your nose the whole time.

While the cover ship (Divine Retribution?) is probably supposed to be part of Battlefleet Gothic, that doesn't necessarily mean that it comes from the Gothic Sector - it could be from almost anywhere else in the galaxy.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say John Blanche probably didn't actually care what "official" fleet it was from when he painted it.

Paint them like that and call them what you want. It's a big galaxy and things can by happenstance have similar schemes.

This dakka page from years ago suggests its Battlefleet Obscurus

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/355083.page

Thanks guys.

Done a little more digging on t'interweb and it seems people across a couple of other forums think the ships on the box art are part of Battlefleet Armageddon.

Although I can't find anything official to corroborate that. This seems to be the case with most of the game's models, unless they're of Battlefleet Gothic - just random paint schemes with only really the actual Battlefleet Gothic scheme given any explanation/details.

It does however appear that in Battlefleet Gothic Magazine #12 that the Battlefleet Armageddon colours on the new ship models they released at that time were similar-ish to the box artwork, although more brown and darker.

Further reading indicates the big ship on the box might be a depiction of an Armageddon class battlecruiser (even though GW probably hadn't thought of it at the time as the Armada expansion which included rules for it was some 6 years later), but the prow is different, although the armament matches.

The 1st edition rulebook also has, on the colour pages, a John Blanche painted Dauntless light cruiser painted similar to the box art (there are Cobra and Sword frigates and Dauntless light cruisers in the background), although it's more bone coloured, but again there's nothing official to state what John Blanche was intending the paint scheme to represent.

So, I guess I'll paint my models bone with a red prow and gold-ish looking trim (like John Blanche's example), and just call them part of Battlefleet Armageddon as I can't find anything to disprove or corroborate that idea.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
While the cover ship (Divine Retribution?) is probably supposed to be part of Battlefleet Gothic, that doesn't necessarily mean that it comes from the Gothic Sector - it could be from almost anywhere else in the galaxy.

That ship is not a battleship. It's a Lunar class as can be seen from the broadside battery and lance turrets. I think also it does not match the Gothic color scheme of green hull and white armored prow.

Iracundus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
While the cover ship (Divine Retribution?) is probably supposed to be part of Battlefleet Gothic, that doesn't necessarily mean that it comes from the Gothic Sector - it could be from almost anywhere else in the galaxy.

That ship is not a battleship. It's a Lunar class as can be seen from the broadside battery and lance turrets. I think also it does not match the Gothic color scheme of green hull and white armored prow.

I never claimed that it is a battleship.

It appears to be an Armageddon class battlecruiser, given the dorsal lance turrets.

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Iracundus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
While the cover ship (Divine Retribution?) is probably supposed to be part of Battlefleet Gothic, that doesn't necessarily mean that it comes from the Gothic Sector - it could be from almost anywhere else in the galaxy.

That ship is not a battleship. It's a Lunar class as can be seen from the broadside battery and lance turrets. I think also it does not match the Gothic color scheme of green hull and white armored prow.

I never claimed that it is a battleship.

It appears to be an Armageddon class battlecruiser, given the dorsal lance turrets.

You asked whether it was Divine Retribution. There is a Retribution class battleship. There is also the Divine Right which is an Emperor class battleship. There AFAIK no Gothic War ship canonically known to be Divine Retribution. That was what made me think you might have thought it was a battleship.

Now with retcon hindsight, yes we can say it is an Armageddon class now, though that was introduced IRL after the main game.

Iracundus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Iracundus wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
While the cover ship (Divine Retribution?) is probably supposed to be part of Battlefleet Gothic, that doesn't necessarily mean that it comes from the Gothic Sector - it could be from almost anywhere else in the galaxy.

That ship is not a battleship. It's a Lunar class as can be seen from the broadside battery and lance turrets. I think also it does not match the Gothic color scheme of green hull and white armored prow.

I never claimed that it is a battleship.

It appears to be an Armageddon class battlecruiser, given the dorsal lance turrets.

You asked whether it was Divine Retribution. There is a Retribution class battleship. There is also the Divine Right which is an Emperor class battleship. There AFAIK no Gothic War ship canonically known to be Divine Retribution. That was what made me think you might have thought it was a battleship.

Now with retcon hindsight, yes we can say it is an Armageddon class now, though that was introduced IRL after the main game.

He said "Divine retribution?" Notice the question mark at then end?

Flinty wrote:This dakka page from years ago suggests its Battlefleet Obscurus

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/355083.page

Rob Lee wrote:Thanks guys.

Done a little more digging on t'interweb and it seems people across a couple of other forums think the ships on the box art are part of Battlefleet Armageddon.

White hull with red details such as the prow was the colours used on the Studio Space Fleet minis, which were described as Battlefleet Solar.

Mind you, John Blanche paints everything in red, yellow, brown tones like that.